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Political correctness & other nonsensical rubbish
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Liverpool said:
There you go again putting homosexuality into the same category as pedophilia and bestiality! If you can't see that there is an issue of consent and victims in these acts that clearly distinguishes from the consensual acts of homosexual couples then you are more deluded and bigoted then I imagined.
Nature built it for what? For whatever we choose to use it for. Where do you get a sense of 'right' and 'wrong' in this?
I cannot believe this discussion has fallen to the point where being gay means you are more likely to molest kids and rape animals.
One of your poorer efforts Liverpool. I disagree with you on a lot, but this is the sort of tripe I expect to hear from creeps on 3am preacher TV advising the apocalypse is nigh.
One of your poorer efforts Liverpool. I disagree with you on a lot, but this is the sort of tripe I expect to hear from creeps on 3am preacher TV advising the apocalypse is nigh.
Panthera tigris FC said:
We haven't been talking about parenting Panthera....we have been talking/debating/discussing the fact that people like yourself continue this delusion that homosexuality is a normal and natural practice when it isn't.
Six Pack said:
Tiger74 said:
You are both going way overboard with why I raised these examples.
I simply raised these two disgraceful acts to show that we, as a society, regard them as abhorrent (and rightly so).....even though (to use a Panthera quote) the people who suffer these urges are also victims of a "minority trait".
It was simply a case of showing people that just because someone is born homosexual does not mean the act of homosexuality is classed as "natural."....just like people born with urges to commit pedophilia or beastiality should not be classed as 'normal' even though their traits were given to them naturally....in their genes, or whatever.
I think you and others know what I was saying yet like to jump to an incorrect conclusion....as I NEVER said anything of the sort that being gay means you are most likely to molest kids or animals...and you know it!
Freezer said:
Exactly! :clap :clap :clap
Disco and all the others can contrive, manufacture, and fabricate every little situation and hypothetical that they can think of to try and justify their twisted views......but at the end of the day, you need a MAN and a WOMAN to create life.....that is nature's way.....and that is it.
Liverpool said:
Didn't I see that in a Swarzenegger film? Or am igetting it confused with Aliens
Liverpool said:
Who cares if Homo sapiens require male and female reproduction, that doesn't mean that some males or females can't naturally fall in love with a member of the same sex nor raise a child together....in the same way that an infertile couple, or step parent can make as good a parent as those that conceive naturally. If your view is so limited that you think that only biological parents are suitable for raising children then you really need to get out and meet more adoptive parents, IVF parents, single parents, step parents AND homosexual parents. All of these can make excellent.....or crappy parents. It has nothing to do with the manner and details of conception.
So to address your view succinctly....can a homosexual couple conceive a child naturally?....NO. Can they make excellent parents of well-adjusted children?...YES. Should they be discriminated against because of their sexual preference?....NO.
As to you putting 'Nature' on a pedestal....ie. "it is nature's way"....it is also 'Nature's way' to kill babies in many cases. Why aren't you crying over the unnatural acts of medical intervention....same logic as your use of the word 'natural'.
As for 'normal', you didn't address my response.....why shouldn't we discriminate against redheaded individuals who are naturally a minority....and thus, by your definition...abnormal?
Liverpool said:You are both going way overboard with why I raised these examples.
I simply raised these two disgraceful acts to show that we, as a society, regard them as abhorrent (and rightly so).....even though (to use a Panthera quote) the people who suffer these urges are also victims of a "minority trait".
It was simply a case of showing people that just because someone is born homosexual does not mean the act of homosexuality is classed as "natural."....just like people born with urges to commit pedophilia or beastiality should not be classed as 'normal' even though their traits were given to them naturally....in their genes, or whatever.
I think you and others know what I was saying yet like to jump to an incorrect conclusion....as I NEVER said anything of the sort that being gay means you are most likely to molest kids or animals...and you know it!
You state homosexuality is parallel to freak acts like pedophilia and beastiality. Enough said, and again, you are better than this mate.
Liverpool said:
The issue is about parenting..I have addressed this in my previous post. As for "delusion", I haven't seen you argue that my position is delusional at all.
You are both going way overboard with why I raised these examples.
I simply raised these two disgraceful acts to show that we, as a society, regard them as abhorrent (and rightly so).....even though (to use a Panthera quote) the people who suffer these urges are also victims of a "minority trait".
It was simply a case of showing people that just because someone is born homosexual does not mean the act of homosexuality is classed as "natural."....just like people born with urges to commit pedophilia or beastiality should not be classed as 'normal' even though their traits were given to them naturally....in their genes, or whatever.
I think you and others know what I was saying yet like to jump to an incorrect conclusion....as I NEVER said anything of the sort that being gay means you are most likely to molest kids or animals...and you know it!
No, you raised your abhorrent examples in the context of saying..."we don't consider these acts acceptable, so why should we accept homosexuality." Ie. you were putting homosexuality at the equivalent level of bestiality and pedophilia. The fact that you can't see why this is such an abhorrent comparison reveals your bigoted point of view on this manner. To spell it out again, the difference is the fact that the latter acts have victims that can't provide consent...hence the correct view of these as crimes. However homosexuality involves consenting adults and therefore harms NO ONE. Therein lies the difference.
By your use of the word 'normal', yes these are all minority positions, but "the redhead rule" applies here just as well. The fact thay you refer to individuals with 'minority traits' (and we all have some minority traits) as "victims" again belies your view on the topic. Heaven forbid you ever find yourself in a minority position, or should I say a victim in a minority position! Your 'abnormal' traits should be considered just that and should be the justification for discrimination against you...they are 'abnormal' after all. :
