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Palestine and Israel
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Where were the protests, all the university students. They must have missed this when it happened. Maybe social media wasn’t around, but I’m sure newspapers and tv were
Telling us here has been anti-semitism for centuries is not news, we know this.
The problem, as you well know, is that the notion of a land without people for a people without land was always a lie. There were people there and they were thrown out and, unsurprisingly, this caused conflict.
Many Palestinian descendants of the inhabitants who were thrown out have not had the choice to be citizens of Palestine as their country was dissolved. Many were born stateless.
The solution to this problem is to resolve the injustice which happened when Israel was established.
If you think this has anything to do with your argument with Sin you really have a very outsized view of yourself. I have no notion that anything will convince you, I want to see a long term solution to this situation so that the Palestinians are no longer oppressed stateless people without a home. In the long term this will also get Israel out of the endless cycle of violence which their current government doesn't want because it serves their interests.
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The problem, as you well know, is that the notion of a land without people for a people without land was always a lie. There were people there and they were thrown out and, unsurprisingly, this caused conflict.
Many Palestinian descendants of the inhabitants who were thrown out have not had the choice to be citizens of Palestine as their country was dissolved. Many were born stateless.
The solution to this problem is to resolve the injustice which happened when Israel was established.
If you think this has anything to do with your argument with Sin you really have a very outsized view of yourself. I have no notion that anything will convince you, I want to see a long term solution to this situation so that the Palestinians are no longer oppressed stateless people without a home. In the long term this will also get Israel out of the endless cycle of violence which their current government doesn't want because it serves their interests.
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Fight the good fight if you wish David but it is pointless as you know.
Fight the good fight if you wish David but it is pointless as you know.
Yeah, I have been arguing with Zionist mouthpieces for close to 40 years, it is tedious, especially when they start frothing at the mouth.
No convincing the welded on Zionists but some others may find the history of use.
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Here he is again ….yayPointless unless you have the facts on your side.
Then the truth speaks for itself, not the biased pick out what you want to use as facts
I was just giving a piece of advice to my co-conspirator David.
We usually plan our joint attack Willo activities in private but I posted it in the forum by mistake.
You ain’t “won” anything …LOLYeah I know how you two operate.
But save your joint attacks! I’m won all of them. You need a different target but you’ve scared them all off.
Except for me. I like to keep you both busy and on your toes
A legend in his own mind is our Willo.
Richmond “won” last night as well …..
You ain’t “won” anything …LOL
A legend in his own mind is our Willo.
Richmond “won” last night as well …..
Certainly didn't win the English language skills: "I'm won", learn some grammar Willo, it is as bad as your diatribes.
I didn't take much of a look at your stream of dates, but it did seem to show that them Arabs have certainly been inhabiting the Middle East for a very long time. Looks like it wasn't a land without people after all.
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Meanwhile Israel, as the occupying power, does nothing to stop the UN Agency UNWRA being attacked by Israelis, as the occupying power it has responsibility to stop this but tends to encourage instead.
The agency was forced to close its compound in the occupied city after the latest attack.
The United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees said Thursday that it was forced to shutter its headquarters in occupied East Jerusalem after a mob of Israeli extremists set fire to the perimeter of the facility, causing significant damage and endangering staffers inside the building.
Philippe Lazzarini, commissioner-general of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), said late Thursday that the fire was the latest escalation by Israeli extremists who have been protesting outside the UNRWA compound for months, ginned up by the Israeli government’s unsubstantiated claims about the agency staffers’ ties to terrorist groups.
An independent probe released last month concluded that Israel “has yet to provide supporting evidence” that “a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organizations.”
In his statement Thursday, Lazzarini said U.N. staffers have “regularly been subjected to harassment and intimidation” and that the East Jerusalem compound “has been seriously vandalized and damaged.”
“This is an outrageous development. Once again, the lives of U.N. staff were at serious risk,” said Lazzarini. “In light of this second appalling incident in less than a week, I have taken the decision to close down our compound until proper security is restored.”
Attacks on the agency’s East Jerusalem headquarters began in February after Arieh King, the far-right deputy mayor of Jerusalem, called on the Netanyahu government to kick the UNRWA “out of Israel and specifically from Jerusalem.”
Lazzarini said that demonstrations “became violent” this week when Israeli protesters “threw stones at U.N. staff and at the buildings of the compound.”
“On several occasions, Israeli extremists threatened our staff with guns,” said Lazzarini. “It is the responsibility of the state of Israel as an occupying power to ensure that United Nations personnel and facilities are protected at all times.”
“I call on all those who have influence to put an end to these attacks and hold all those responsible accountable,” he continued. “The perpetrators of these attacks must be investigated and those responsible must be held accountable. Anything less will set a new dangerous standard.”
Espen Barth Eide, Norway’s foreign affairs minister, said Friday that he was “shocked” by the attacks on UNRWA’s East Jerusalem headquarters and echoed Lazzarini’s call for an investigation.
“As host country, Israel has a duty to protect U.N. personnel and premises at any time. The incidents must be investigated, those responsible must be held accountable. UNRWA is the lifeline for millions of Palestine refugees.”
Norway was among the nations that did not suspend funding for UNRWA as the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, and other Western countries cut off donations to the agency earlier this year following Israel’s baseless allegations against the body’s employees. UNRWA’s chief has accused the Netanyahu government of launching a “concerted campaign” to destroy the agency.
The U.S., historically UNRWA’s largest donor, has yet to resume funding for the agency, which is the primary relief organization operating in the Gaza Strip. Legislation that President Joe Biden signed into law last month prohibits U.S. government funding for UNRWA until at least March 2025.
The latest attack on UNRWA’s East Jerusalem headquarters came as the agency worked to aid displaced Palestinians in Rafah, the overcrowded city in southern Gaza that Israeli ground forces invaded earlier this week, worsening an already grave humanitarian disaster.
UNRWA wrote in a social media post Friday that it has been forced to close 10 of its 34 medical points in Rafah amid the Israeli military’s attack on the city.
“Forced displacement and military operations in Rafah are worsening an already catastrophic situation,” the agency said. “We need a cease-fire now.”
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Israeli Extremists Set Fire to UNRWA’s Headquarters in East Jerusalem
The agency was forced to close its compound in the occupied city after the latest attack.
The United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees said Thursday that it was forced to shutter its headquarters in occupied East Jerusalem after a mob of Israeli extremists set fire to the perimeter of the facility, causing significant damage and endangering staffers inside the building.
Philippe Lazzarini, commissioner-general of the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), said late Thursday that the fire was the latest escalation by Israeli extremists who have been protesting outside the UNRWA compound for months, ginned up by the Israeli government’s unsubstantiated claims about the agency staffers’ ties to terrorist groups.
An independent probe released last month concluded that Israel “has yet to provide supporting evidence” that “a significant number of UNRWA employees are members of terrorist organizations.”
In his statement Thursday, Lazzarini said U.N. staffers have “regularly been subjected to harassment and intimidation” and that the East Jerusalem compound “has been seriously vandalized and damaged.”
“This is an outrageous development. Once again, the lives of U.N. staff were at serious risk,” said Lazzarini. “In light of this second appalling incident in less than a week, I have taken the decision to close down our compound until proper security is restored.”
Attacks on the agency’s East Jerusalem headquarters began in February after Arieh King, the far-right deputy mayor of Jerusalem, called on the Netanyahu government to kick the UNRWA “out of Israel and specifically from Jerusalem.”
Lazzarini said that demonstrations “became violent” this week when Israeli protesters “threw stones at U.N. staff and at the buildings of the compound.”
“On several occasions, Israeli extremists threatened our staff with guns,” said Lazzarini. “It is the responsibility of the state of Israel as an occupying power to ensure that United Nations personnel and facilities are protected at all times.”
“I call on all those who have influence to put an end to these attacks and hold all those responsible accountable,” he continued. “The perpetrators of these attacks must be investigated and those responsible must be held accountable. Anything less will set a new dangerous standard.”
Espen Barth Eide, Norway’s foreign affairs minister, said Friday that he was “shocked” by the attacks on UNRWA’s East Jerusalem headquarters and echoed Lazzarini’s call for an investigation.
“As host country, Israel has a duty to protect U.N. personnel and premises at any time. The incidents must be investigated, those responsible must be held accountable. UNRWA is the lifeline for millions of Palestine refugees.”
Norway was among the nations that did not suspend funding for UNRWA as the United States, United Kingdom, Germany, and other Western countries cut off donations to the agency earlier this year following Israel’s baseless allegations against the body’s employees. UNRWA’s chief has accused the Netanyahu government of launching a “concerted campaign” to destroy the agency.
The U.S., historically UNRWA’s largest donor, has yet to resume funding for the agency, which is the primary relief organization operating in the Gaza Strip. Legislation that President Joe Biden signed into law last month prohibits U.S. government funding for UNRWA until at least March 2025.
The latest attack on UNRWA’s East Jerusalem headquarters came as the agency worked to aid displaced Palestinians in Rafah, the overcrowded city in southern Gaza that Israeli ground forces invaded earlier this week, worsening an already grave humanitarian disaster.
UNRWA wrote in a social media post Friday that it has been forced to close 10 of its 34 medical points in Rafah amid the Israeli military’s attack on the city.
“Forced displacement and military operations in Rafah are worsening an already catastrophic situation,” the agency said. “We need a cease-fire now.”
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Like any other microcosm of Palestinian society there are bound to be a few Hamas supporters in UNRWA but the vast majority of it is a lie, backed up by the lack of evidence from Israel.
It is part of the propaganda because in the end UNRWA represents 2 things. The first is that many if not most Palestinians are refugees and secondly, because of when it was formed, that their status goes back to 1948, the NAQBA.
Maybe there is a 3rd part which Israel just doesn’t want a desperate people actually helped …I will leave that for individuals to judge.
The lack of concern for aid workers continues. I saw a press release from MSF showing a destroyed ambulance clearly marked as Medicin sans frontiers. Luckily noone was killed.
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