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To me the issue is a simple one, even if you do tank, you are not guarranteed to get it correct down the track and it can blow up in your face in other areas.
Blues tank - Take Kruezer instead of Cotchin
Dee's tank - Take Scully and Trengove - We get Martin

The one area that I don't think has been mentioned yet is the winner of the game where a team is tanking. What if a team has to tank and get beaten by a certian margin due to their percentage and if they have to get it below a certain figure. Wouldnt you love to be playing against them if you needed the percentage to get into the finals. I know this might be drawing a long bow but imagine if we are 8th next year and get knocked out by 1% by a team that has just won by 150 points.
 
ARCHYBOY said:
To me the issue is a simple one, even if you do tank, you are not guarranteed to get it correct down the track and it can blow up in your face in other areas.
Blues tank - Take Kruezer instead of Cotchin
Dee's tank - Take Scully and Trengove - We get Martin

You're making it sound like Kruezer, Scully and Trengrove are Tamblings revisited? (I'd accept any of them into the Richmond fold in a heartbeat if they were available). Anyhow, it's not about guarantees, it's about getting an advantage - no one alive would not prefer a pick two over a pick one, or pick four over a pick three etc if given an option, more so if there is a specific player that you are targeting. Every one wants to be able to control their own destiny and not have to watch anxiously what someone else decides. And sure Martin might be better than either Scully or Trengrove (which is debatable of course as none of them have been stellar this year), but you're missing the point, they got both. What order the first two picks might not really matter that much, but having an extra pick in the top three does, and will continue to matter as Melbourne rapes this draft as well with the Scully compensation. Clubs like Melbourne and Carlton don't throw games unless the rewards aren't very rich indeed.
 
Tygrys said:
You're making it sound like Kruezer, Scully and Trengrove are Tamblings revisited? (I'd accept any of them into the Richmond fold in a heartbeat if they were available). Anyhow, it's not about guarantees, it's about getting an advantage - no one alive would not prefer a pick two over a pick one, or pick four over a pick three etc if given an option, more so if there is a specific player that you are targeting. Every one wants to be able to control their own destiny and not have to watch anxiously what someone else decides. And sure Martin might be better than either Scully or Trengrove (which is debatable of course as none of them have been stellar this year), but you're missing the point, they got both. What order the first two picks might not really matter that much, but having an extra pick in the top three does, and will continue to matter as Melbourne rapes this draft as well with the Scully compensation. Clubs like Melbourne and Carlton don't throw games unless the rewards aren't very rich indeed.

Agree with what you're saying, Im just making the point that even if you do tank, its not a guarrantee you will get it right. I'm of the belief that there is more down side to upside by tanking.
 
Rocklea Tiger said:
Provided the primary purpose is not to lose the game:
It is not unreasonable to keep players out if they have niggles toward an end of a season.
It is not unreasonable to try players in different positions for a game or parts there of.
It is not unreasonable to try a new game strategy.
It is not unreasonable to run out of new ideas / strategies so therefore just sit in the coaches box, do nothing but hope for inspiration to strike.

Just wonder what chance you have of winning if you are reasonably struck with all four options simultaneously.

Nooooooooooooo Mr Dimi. We weren't trying to lose at all. We just had all these reasonably unforseen opportunities errr ooops we mean unforseen circumstances just overwhelm us all at the same time. Really truly Mr. Dimi we're not fibber foxin to you Mr.Dimi.
 
Think my number and 3 and your additional No 4 might be at odds or an oxymoron. You the Oxy, me the moron? Who really knows ;D
 
Did anyone notice at the end of the show Chris Scott telling Gerard Healy that he had to apologise to brother Brad about something.I have no idea what it's about,but there was probably only 5 seconds of air time left when he said it.If anyone has taped it look back and you'll see what i mean. ???
 
I think it was because earlier in the interview Healy compared the Selwoods incident with the time an injured Nick Reiwoldt was bumped around by Chris and Brad Scott - only Brad wasn't involved [it was Chris and Mal Michael IIRC], hence Chris telling Healy he needed to apologise to Brad.
 
tigerdave said:
Did anyone notice at the end of the show Chris Scott telling Gerard Healy that he had to apologise to brother Brad about something.I have no idea what it's about,but there was probably only 5 seconds of air time left when he said it.If anyone has taped it look back and you'll see what i mean. ???
they talked about it 0n 360 last night Brad wasn't playing when the Nick Riewoldt thing happened,that was all
 
Foxtrot said:
I think it was because earlier in the interview Healy compared the Selwoods incident with the time an injured Nick Reiwoldt was bumped around by Chris and Brad Scott - only Brad wasn't involved [it was Chris and Mal Michael IIRC], hence Chris telling Healy he needed to apologise to Brad.

Righto! Thanks for that.
 
I don't know what RFC did to Roos or Sheehan but these clowns only pay the barest if lip service to Richmond.
They spoke about freo v essendon next week before they mentioned anything about Richmond.
Gave 10 seconds literally on Richmond. No mention of who played well or the reigning Coleman medallist kicking 7?!!?!!!

Sheehan commented that we'd basically proven nothing if we are 3-0 after this week until we play vollingwood then they moved on.

What a joke!

Hope we smash collingwood now, a la 95 round 4 against north!!
 
doherz said:
I don't know what RFC did to Roos or Sheehan but these clowns only pay the barest if lip service to Richmond.
They spoke about freo v essendon next week before they mentioned anything about Richmond.
Gave 10 seconds literally on Richmond. No mention of who played well or the reigning Coleman medallist kicking 7?!!?!!!

Sheehan commented that we'd basically proven nothing if we are 3-0 after this week until we play vollingwood then they moved on.

What a joke!

Hope we smash collingwood now, a la 95 round 4 against north!!
I noticed it too. Like I mentioned last week...we need to be 'tested' by this media to even gain an inch of respect while duds like Neeld escape all scrutiny. Anyway, you missed the classic line from Healy: "If Essendon beat Freo at Subiaco, they'd be premiership contenders".....WTF!!!
 
They always find time to pump up the Swans though! This week Kieran Jack got his ego tickled. Can see why - they've beaten a couple of heavyweights so far in 2013. Roos drives me mad.

Still - it was not much spoken but roughly right on us. Lid needs to stay on. We've won two games without overly impressing. Time for us to play a good one and kick some backsides if we want to be more than curious.
 
doherz said:
I don't know what RFC did to Roos or Sheehan but these clowns only pay the barest if lip service to Richmond.
They spoke about freo v essendon next week before they mentioned anything about Richmond.
Gave 10 seconds literally on Richmond. No mention of who played well or the reigning Coleman medallist kicking 7?!!?!!!

Sheehan commented that we'd basically proven nothing if we are 3-0 after this week until we play vollingwood then they moved on.

What a joke!

Hope we smash collingwood now, a la 95 round 4 against north!!

Your being very generous, it was lucky to be 5 seconds.
Sheehan is a flog, closely followed by roo's
North is unlucky to be 0-2, Carlton are unlucky to be 0-2 and Richmond is lucky to be 2-0.
They hate us they bag us when we loose, they bag us when we win.
This will only stop only when we win a flag.
Roo's and his Sydney *smile* is just hard to listen too. I hope we slap Sydney to shove it up his ass.


Open mike with Scarlett. Scarlett is the biggest flog to walk this planet. He thinks his *smile* dosent stink...
 
Haven't all you people learnt by now, Richmond is only worth talking about when we are LOSING not when we are winning.

I don't even bother watching these stupid shows anymore, they have their favorite sides who they will pump up when they are winning and make a thousand excuses for when they are losing (sydney- essendon etc) and they have their least favorite sides that they wont talk about when they are winning but will tear strips of them when they are losing.

doherz said:
Sheehan commented that we'd basically proven nothing if we are 3-0 after this week until we play vollingwood then they moved on.

We've proven nothing by beating 2 sides that finished above us last year, what a kick in the guts that must be to Carlton who a lot of so called experts had them challenging for the top 4. What Sheehan is basically saying is we have beaten two pretty ordinary sides in Carlton and St Kilda.
 
meh!

Roos- Only 2 things interest him. Himself and the Swans

Milhouse - how this guy made a career out of being a 'football expert' with what seems to be a fairly poor knowledge of football is beyond me. He really should be known as an opinion writer and nothing else.

But I do agree we have proven nothing so far. 2 unconvincing wins against middle table teams. But you have to laugh at the double standards re. the junkies from Tullamarine!
 
bowden4president said:
Roos- Only 2 things interest him. Himself and the Swans

Wrong, there are 3 things. You forgot his mate Rossy.

I am really happy that the media is underating us. Newspapers, radio , TV are all barely paying lip service to the Tigers. Good.

Some more time under the radar is a good thing but don't get too used to it because there is a time coming when we will be impossible to ignore. It may be this year or next but it is coming soon.

In the meantime my suggestion in regards to OTC is a simple one, don't watch it. I started that mid last season and am much happier.
 
mmmm..i don't think we've proven much yet..two fairly average performances that we only just won...lets see how we go over the next 4 games before we start expecting respect from sheehan etc

then again as i type this robbo is going on and on and on about bloody dyson heppel of all people....wtf???
 
arlobill said:
mmmm..i don't think we've proven much yet..two fairly average performances that we only just won...lets see how we go over the next 4 games before we start expecting respect from sheehan etc

then again as i type this robbo is going on and on and on about bloody dyson heppel of all people....wtf???

No about respect. But an honest appraisal of where we are at that lasts more than 5 seconds for arguably the biggest team in the comp would be nice.