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And did'nt Ricky Stuart show his true colours,with his outburst after the game,

No one like to be defeated, but instead of blaming the ref and organisers of the tournament, perhaps he should have a look in the mirror,

He had the team full of stars, and was playing a far inferior team on paper,

And was out coached and sucker punched by the wily old Bennett .
 
kiwitiger said:
And did'nt Ricky Stuart show his true colours,with his outburst after the game,

No one like to be defeated, but instead of blaming the ref and organisers of the tournament, perhaps he should have a look in the mirror,

He had the team full of stars, and was playing a far inferior team on paper,

And was out coached and sucker punched by the wily old Bennett
He's never been a good loser has Rick :'( :-[ :dummyspit

No matter which way you look at it this was a sensational win by the Kiwis(and Rugby League). The omens never looked good when firstly Tate and then Price pulled out of the Aussie team............... then old Chang fell off the back of his parade vehicle pre-game ???

The Dragons v Sharks clashes in 2009 will be unbelievable :fire :blowingup
 
kiwitiger said:
And did'nt Ricky Stuart show his true colours,with his outburst after the game,

No one like to be defeated, but instead of blaming the ref and organisers of the tournament, perhaps he should have a look in the mirror,

He had the team full of stars, and was playing a far inferior team on paper,

And was out coached and sucker punched by the wily old Bennett .
Agree,Stuart is a disgrace as he showed again on Sat night.
 
mb64 said:
Agree,Stuart is a disgrace as he showed again on Sat night.

Sounds like Stuart had a fair whinge.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24709357-2722,00.html
 
jb03 said:
Sounds like Stuart had a fair whinge.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24709357-2722,00.html
No doubt the ref wasn't great & the penalty try should never have been awarded but the Kiwis outplayed us & deserved their win.
 
mb64 said:
No doubt the ref wasn't great & the penalty try should never have been awarded but the Kiwis outplayed us & deserved their win.

I thought the penalty try was justified - why do you think it shouln't have been allowed?
 
jb03 said:
I thought the penalty try was justified - why do you think it shouln't have been allowed?
Slater was a foot away & more than likely no try would have been scored.Monahan should have been sin binned for 10 minutes.
 
mb64 said:
Slater was a foot away & more than likely no try would have been scored.Monahan should have been sin binned for 10 minutes.

We need some NRL/Rugby League experts to come on and give their view to settle the difference of opinion.
 
jb03 said:
We need some NRL/Rugby League experts to come on and give their view to settle the difference of opinion.

Much more urgent requirement for experts to do the same on the Race, Religion and Politics board. I'm heading over now.....
 
jb03 said:
We need some NRL/Rugby League experts to come on and give their view to settle the difference of opinion.

i thought it should have been awarded,

in these situations , there is no such thing as a certainty,

And there is always controversy, always , because of that uncertainty,

Slater looked closer, Hohia had the better angle ,running the same direction the ball was travelling, while slater was coming across in cover,

Slater could have got there first, Hohia could have got there first, who knows, we will never know that answer, and it could be argued forever,

He could also have knocked the ball on,

But, the point is , he had a genuine chance to score a try , a genuine chance , and his chance was taken away in a cynical act of foul play.

I believe he should get benefit of the doubt because of the manner in which his chance to score was taken away from him,

Not because of the odds.
 
kiwitiger said:
i thought it should have been awarded,

in these situations , there is no such thing as a certainty,

And there is always controversy, always , because of that uncertainty,

Slater looked closer, Hohia had the better angle ,running the same direction the ball was travelling, while slater was coming across in cover,

Slater could have got there first, Hohia could have got there first, who knows, we will never know that answer, and it could be argued forever,

He could also have knocked the ball on,

But, the point is , he had a genuine chance to score a try , a genuine chance , and his chance was taken away in a cynical act of foul play.

I believe he should get benefit of the doubt because of the manner in which his chance to score was taken away from him,

Not because of the odds.

Good post kiwi. Now mb take note, that is what I was talking about when I referred to an NRL/rugby league expert.
 
jb03 said:
Good post kiwi. Now mb take note, that is what I was talking about when I referred to an NRL/rugby league expert.
That 2 experts with 2 different views.We will now require a 3rd opinion form an expert (excludes jb03)
 
I can see why it was awarded, but I think it should have been considered a professional foul as I don't think Monaghan was likely to score. What kiwitiger describes is the definition of a professional foul, cynically taking out a player who might have had a chance to score. Not much point in having professional foul rules as just about any professional foul could be reasoned into becoming a penalty try.
 
mld said:
I can see why it was awarded, but I think it should have been considered a professional foul as I don't think Monaghan was likely to score. What kiwitiger describes is the definition of a professional foul, cynically taking out a player who might have had a chance to score. Not much point in having professional foul rules as just about any professional foul could be reasoned into becoming a penalty try.

I guess there has to be a line drawn, where it fits into either catogary, penalty try or professional foul,

some are obvious , which side of the line they sit,

this one is close, i thought it was a correct decision because his chance of scoring was high,

But thats all opinion,

Tell you what was interesting, I listened to the Aussie call, Gould and Sterlo both thought it should be a penalty try while waiting for the decision,

I have since heard the kiwi commentators , on some sort of highlights package i saw online, and they did'nt expect it to be one.

Work that out.
 
Yes kiwitiger, like I said, I see why it was given, and while I don't think it should have been given I have no problems that it was. Regardless, the easy solution to not give away a penalty try is to not take the player out illegally, so I certainly don't have any sympathy for Monaghan.
 
mld said:
Yes kiwitiger, like I said, I see why it was given, and while I don't think it should have been given I have no problems that it was. Regardless, the easy solution to not give away a penalty try is to not take the player out illegally, so I certainly don't have any sympathy for Monaghan.
Me neither but I belived he should have been binned for 10 minutes