NBA 2011

[Lidsand]

ive been a denver fan since 1991 and have probably followed melo more than anyone else here. for what its worth heres my take on the trade from a knicks POV. melo may be just be a scorer and lacks application defensively (he can defend, but chooses not to) but he is the best pure scorer in the nba. late in the game he is as good as anyone in the nba. he had 10 match winning buzzer beaters before lebron had his first. but his strength is that he can score in so many ways its scary in fact he can score in any way. lightning quick first step means he is past you before u know it, he has range on his jump shot and knocks down 3's for fun always has, he's way to strong for most 3's and way too quick for 4 and 5's. quite simply he can and does score from anywhere and can score on anyone. he has struggled against the very best zone defences early in his career but his recent playoff performances suggest he has overcome that with maturity and understanding his game and playoff bball better.

Billups is the reason for some of that maturity. whoever was playing down mr. big shot is clueless. he may be 34 but who cares? he is the first pg you'd pick if you want a build a team to beat boston. billups is made for playoffs, he gets melo and dont underestimate his leadership. amare must now become a monster on the boards and in the post for his team and take a backward step for his team. its now melo's team. surround him with a perimeter defender that can play 2/3 and a massive 7 footer that can set picks and screens for him and they can contend as long as they get some bench depth that can provide some instant offence. melo is good for 38 mins a night and when he is happy is a winner of jordan like proportions.

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

ive been a denver fan since 1991 and have probably followed melo more than anyone else here. for what its worth heres my take on the trade from a knicks POV. melo may be just be a scorer and lacks application defensively (he can defend, but chooses not to) but he is the best pure scorer in the nba. late in the game he is as good as anyone in the nba. he had 10 match winning buzzer beaters before lebron had his first. but his strength is that he can score in so many ways its scary in fact he can score in any way. lightning quick first step means he is past you before u know it, he has range on his jump shot and knocks down 3's for fun always has, he's way to strong for most 3's and way too quick for 4 and 5's. quite simply he can and does score from anywhere and can score on anyone. he has struggled against the very best zone defences early in his career but his recent playoff performances suggest he has overcome that with maturity and understanding his game and playoff bball better.

Billups is the reason for some of that maturity. whoever was playing down mr. big shot is clueless. he may be 34 but who cares? he is the first pg you'd pick if you want a build a team to beat boston. billups is made for playoffs, he gets melo and dont underestimate his leadership. amare must now become a monster on the boards and in the post for his team and take a backward step for his team. its now melo's team. surround him with a perimeter defender that can play 2/3 and a massive 7 footer that can set picks and screens for him and they can contend as long as they get some bench depth that can provide some instant offence. melo is good for 38 mins a night and when he is happy is a winner of jordan like proportions.

Please don't compare him to Jordan.

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

Boston sign Troy Murphy.

Perkin signs contract extension with the Thunder so no free agency.

Miami are expected to sign Mike Bibby.

 

[Lidsand]

Please don't compare him to Jordan.

why? jordan didnt win anything in his first 6 years

 

[Scoop]

ive been a denver fan since 1991 and have probably followed melo more than anyone else here. for what its worth heres my take on the trade from a knicks POV. melo may be just be a scorer and lacks application defensively (he can defend, but chooses not to) but he is the best pure scorer in the nba. late in the game he is as good as anyone in the nba. he had 10 match winning buzzer beaters before lebron had his first. but his strength is that he can score in so many ways its scary in fact he can score in any way. lightning quick first step means he is past you before u know it, he has range on his jump shot and knocks down 3's for fun always has, he's way to strong for most 3's and way too quick for 4 and 5's. quite simply he can and does score from anywhere and can score on anyone. he has struggled against the very best zone defences early in his career but his recent playoff performances suggest he has overcome that with maturity and understanding his game and playoff bball better.

Billups is the reason for some of that maturity. whoever was playing down mr. big shot is clueless. he may be 34 but who cares? he is the first pg you'd pick if you want a build a team to beat boston. billups is made for playoffs, he gets melo and dont underestimate his leadership. amare must now become a monster on the boards and in the post for his team and take a backward step for his team. its now melo's team. surround him with a perimeter defender that can play 2/3 and a massive 7 footer that can set picks and screens for him and they can contend as long as they get some bench depth that can provide some instant offence. melo is good for 38 mins a night and when he is happy is a winner of jordan like proportions.

Spot on LBC. Everyone forgets that Melo won a title as a freshman at Syracuse. And the Nuggest have been a playoff team in his tenure at Denver. He is a winner. And a elite scorer. Best jab step and fakes in the NBA. Pure scorer. And if Billups isn't part of this deal, it doesn't get done. Sure the Knicks have to reup the bench and draft smart but when you have the opportunity to put Amare and Melo at the forwards for the next 5 years you do it in a heartbeat. Billups comes off the books in two years and you have more cap space to make a splash. No doubt CP3 ends up at New York as some stage. The three of them toasted to playing in NYC at Melo's wedding. It's going to happen. The Knicks just need to be smart and add the right pieces. Draft a DeAndre Jordan type centre.A jump shooter to spread the floor for Melo and Stat. It's get me beat why NYC didn't keep Corey Brewer. A long 2-3 man who can defend. Crazy move.

 

[Lidsand]

Spot on LBC. Everyone forgets that Melo won a title as a freshman at Syracuse. And the Nuggest have been a playoff team in his tenure at Denver. He is a winner. And a elite scorer. Best jab step and fakes in the NBA. Pure scorer. And if Billups isn't part of this deal, it doesn't get done. Sure the Knicks have to reup the bench and draft smart but when you have the opportunity to put Amare and Melo at the forwards for the next 5 years you do it in a heartbeat. Billups comes off the books in two years and you have more cap space to make a splash. No doubt CP3 ends up at New York as some stage. The three of them toasted to playing in NYC at Melo's wedding. It's going to happen. The Knicks just need to be smart and add the right pieces. Draft a DeAndre Jordan type centre.A jump shooter to spread the floor for Melo and Stat. It's get me beat why NYC didn't keep Corey Brewer. A long 2-3 man who can defend. Crazy move.

spot on with everything pooper

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

why? jordan didnt win anything in his first 6 years

Your comparing "Melo" to the best player in the history of the game...laughable.

Your right Jordan didn't win anything in his first 6 years.
Melo is in his 8th I'd be surprised if he'd ever gets 1 ring.
Plus Jordan never left Chicago to join another team which has a superstar Power Forward.

Jordan: Defensive player of the year & 9 time All NBA first defensive team, 5 Time MVP, 6 Time NBA Finals MVP.
That's the difference right there.....Melo will never get one of those awards.

 

[Lidsand]

re-read what i said jukes. i said he is a winner like jordan. he has always played in winning teams and as a freshman won the ncaa title leading syracuse. he went straight to the nba after that.

theres a big difference in what i said to your interpretation of what i said

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

re-read what i said jukes. i said he is a winner like jordan. he has always played in winning teams and as a freshman won the ncaa title leading syracuse. he went straight to the nba after that.

theres a big difference in what i said to your interpretation of what i said

I apologize LBC, I miss read what you said :doh

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

Heat got rolled today by the magic after having a massive lead.

 

[St. Jude]

Just finished watching the heat magic game.......

Again a glaring example of how LBJ can hurt you in the course of a game but is found wanting when the pressure is on .....

Nice block in the scramble with about 20s to go in the magic game but when he had the ball in his hands instead of creating the points and extra, as a man of his calibre should, he ends up dishing to Wade. Again an example of why the Heat have a problem, especially if LBJ starts to demand that he takes the important shot!!!!

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

Just finished watching the heat magic game.......

Again a glaring example of how LBJ can hurt you in the course of a game but is found wanting when the pressure is on .....

Nice block in the scramble with about 20s to go in the magic game but when he had the ball in his hands instead of creating the points and extra, as a man of his calibre should, he ends up dishing to Wade. Again an example of why the Heat have a problem, especially if LBJ starts to demand that he takes the important shot!!!!

This is my criticism of him, If people think LBJ is anywhere near the best in the league they are delusional.

Today the heat get smashed by 30 against the Spurs.
Spurs have won 22 straight at home, they are legit.

 

[Barnzy]

This is my criticism of him, If people think LBJ is anywhere near the best in the league they are delusional.

He is one of the best in leauge if not the best, there's no doubting it. You must have some bias against him to say he's not "anywhere near" the best. He's still putting up insane numbers. Perhaps not quite as good as Cleveland numbers but that's cause he has to share the ball with Wade. 26.3 PPG, 7.50 RPG, 7.1 APG. Cleveland falling to pieces after he left also proves how good he is. Sure he's missed a few game winning shots but he's never been a great 3 point shooter regardless so don't know how you can put it down to choking. Just look at his 3pt %. He's also taken over plenty of games and dominated when the game was on the line in the last quarter this year so they wouldn't even be in those games if not for him. He's one of the best at taking it to the rim in NBA. He should do that more near the end of games but Heat are not running plays well so he's forced to take some of them. Miami don't have a Kyle Korver.

On talent he's the best player in the NBA right now. On performance this year IMO it's:

Rose
Lebron
Howard

 

[Scoop]

He is one of the best in leauge if not the best, there's no doubting it. You must have some bias against him to say he's not "anywhere near" the best. He's still putting up insane numbers. Perhaps not quite as good as Cleveland numbers but that's cause he has to share the ball with Wade. 26.3 PPG, 7.50 RPG, 7.1 APG. Cleveland falling to pieces after he left also proves how good he is. Sure he's missed a few game winning shots but he's never been a great 3 point shooter regardless so don't know how you can put it down to choking. Just look at his 3pt %. He's also taken over plenty of games and dominated when the game was on the line in the last quarter this year so they wouldn't even be in those games if not for him. He's one of the best at taking it to the rim in NBA. He should do that more near the end of games but Heat are not running plays well so he's forced to take some of them. Miami don't have a Kyle Korver.

On talent he's the best player in the NBA right now. On performance this year IMO it's:

Rose
Lebron
Howard

Agree with all the Jimmy besides the Heat not having a Korver type. Mike Miller got paid to do that and he has not been able to preform at the expected level.
Watched both games today. The Bulls are legit. Dwight Howard is a vastly improved player. And the Spurs just shot the Heat out of the game. Just drilled the long ball. Will beat most teams if they shoot like that. But the Heat have issues. Bosh is awful defender. Joelle Anthony has not been sighted for years.
And Big Z, Juwan Howard, Mike Bibby would be a great supporting cast if this was 2004.

 

[Scoop]

Wow. Big stat on ESPN.

The Heat are 1-16 in the final ten seconds of games when they can take the lead.

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

Kobe should be on that list too.

I agree with those comments regarding Lebron fellas.

I concede that I am biased because I dislike him a tad.

Most people would agree he isn't the best perimeter shooter,
So why does he demand to be the man in this instance time and time again? Ego maybe.
If there is no open man....It should be Wade everyday of the week.
I remember seeing Wade hit the game winner in a playoff as a rookie.....although it wasn't a 3 but a 15 foot jumper.

This article sums it up pretty well.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AuR.bBUvEION1f1CbLkG9xU5nYcB?slug=aw-heatissues030611

I don't expect Miami to go further than the second round, If they went down in the first round wouldn't surprise me either.
No center, no point guard and the bench is too weak imo.

Don't sleep on the Lakers....their playing pretty damn well at the moment.

 

[St. Jude]

He is one of the best in leauge if not the best, there's no doubting it. You must have some bias against him to say he's not "anywhere near" the best. He's still putting up insane numbers. Perhaps not quite as good as Cleveland numbers but that's cause he has to share the ball with Wade. 26.3 PPG, 7.50 RPG, 7.1 APG. Cleveland falling to pieces after he left also proves how good he is. Sure he's missed a few game winning shots but he's never been a great 3 point shooter regardless so don't know how you can put it down to choking. Just look at his 3pt %. He's also taken over plenty of games and dominated when the game was on the line in the last quarter this year so they wouldn't even be in those games if not for him. He's one of the best at taking it to the rim in NBA. He should do that more near the end of games but Heat are not running plays well so he's forced to take some of them. Miami don't have a Kyle Korver.

On talent he's the best player in the NBA right now. On performance this year IMO it's:

Rose
Lebron
Howard

Sorry but the best in the league would have to be able to win the game when it's there to be won IMO. Yes LBJ scores, Yes LBJ gets Boards, Yes LBJ dishes but when the pressure is on he also seems to go missing. In regards to the game winning shots he doesn't just miss threes but twos as well so yes I think we can say there may be a little bit of choking there. Best in the league are the blokes like Kobe and Wade because they do all that LBJ does and then hit the big shot too. LBJ is good, Very good in fact but I can't consider him as best in the league until he shows he can handle the pressure.
Also LBJ is not the only reason for Cleveland's demise, if memory serves they lost 2 other starters as well. That'll put a big hole in anyones bucket.

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

Sorry but the best in the league would have to be able to win the game when it's there to be won IMO. Yes LBJ scores, Yes LBJ gets Boards, Yes LBJ dishes but when the pressure is on he also seems to go missing. In regards to the game winning shots he doesn't just miss threes but twos as well so yes I think we can say there may be a little bit of choking there. Best in the league are the blokes like Kobe and Wade because they do all that LBJ does and then hit the big shot too. LBJ is good, Very good in fact but I can't consider him as best in the league until he shows he can handle the pressure.
Also LBJ is not the only reason for Cleveland's demise, if memory serves they lost 2 other starters as well. That'll put a big hole in anyones bucket.

good post.

 

[Scoop]

http://www.tauntr.com/content/why-so-sad-lebron

This made me LOL about 10 times. The interwebz at it's best.

 

[SfB_AkA._DeLiCiOuS]

http://www.tauntr.com/content/why-so-sad-lebron

This made me LOL about 10 times. The interwebz at it's best.

That is hilarious :rofl

5 losses in a row now for the Heat.
Portland won @ Miami....they have really fallen off,
The Trailbrazer's were in control for the majority of the game.
Not to state the obvious but Miami need a win badly.

Next they play the Lakers, don't see them winning that one either.