More on Morton

[davidrodan]

My sauces tell me BBQ...time will tell ;D

Sorry couldn't help myself

 

[ZeroGame]

The Richmond Football Club must leak like a sieve with all these sources going around. ;D

I think it's great, they've leaked different things to different people, with so much confusion even we probably don't know who we're going to take.

At the draft table it'll be Heads - Cotchin, Tales - Morton

 

[gustiger12]

The Richmond Football Club must leak like a sieve with all these sources going around. ;D

I think it's great, they've leaked different things to different people, with so much confusion even we probably don't know who we're going to take.

At the draft table it'll be Heads - Cotchin, Tales - Morton

Problem is they will probably get confused themselves come draft day

 

[Tigerbob]

Masten would be nice.You can't have them all unfortunately(unless you're Carlton)

My leaning towards Masten is because as the saying goes - you need to crawl before you walk. I just think we need to address the most important part of football first, our most pressing issue, that is our inside clearance work. Once you get this up and running, it becomes easier to address other areas. Better and more effective clearance work assists your outside runners and gets them more involved also places less pressure on them to win the hard ball, it gives the forwards better delivery, and it takes away pressure form you defenders. Better clearance work will make Tambling and Deledio more effective and dangerous, will make Riewoldt and Hughes better forwards, and make Polak and Thursfield better defenders. All of a sudden things start to fall into place. Your inside on-ballers are your ingnition. I'd love to see us stack this draft with inside on-ballers. 2.Masten, 18.Grimes, 19.McGinnity, 35.Polkinghorne would be a dream for me. I know other areas need addressing also, but hard, tough, inside footy always prevails, and we'd improve immensely if this occured.

You are a very smart poster.

Enjoy reading your thoughts.

My philosophy on pick 2 is simple - get the best, most talented kid through the Punt Road Door. That player without a shadow of a doubt is Trent Cotchin. People have now been caught looking sideays and around at the most ugly word in football "X Factor". We have been bamboozled by it while teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn have just got the best footballers through the door. End result - we a poor developing club never see the X Factor flourish, while those two good developing clubs, see the natural talent enhanced. Pretty simple really. If we just draft the best FOOTBALLER the rest will sort itself out.

On the sources - mine is pretty strong and it is all over the Cale Morton to Richmond, the minds have been made up. Cant wait for Cale to be the new whipping boy at Richmond while the anguish as Trent Cotchin being a Superstar daggers the Heart again.

This club will NEVER learn.

 

[momentai]

Wallace and Miller have done enormous damage but I am hoping that Francis Jackson will be allowed to do his job without their interference, as it appears he was last year with our draft selections?

Anyone who believes the stuff about Morton and how much West Coast want him should ask whether the fact that they are preparing to trade the older brother suggests something else. Do WC ever draft skinny outside wingmen?

Bit like Freemantle telling Fiora pre-draft that he didn't suit them and wouldn't be picked up when they really wanted Pav and had to get by us to get him.

Kruzer or Cotchin, are the obvious choices.

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Masten would be nice.You can't have them all unfortunately(unless you're Carlton)

My leaning towards Masten is because as the saying goes - you need to crawl before you walk. I just think we need to address the most important part of football first, our most pressing issue, that is our inside clearance work. Once you get this up and running, it becomes easier to address other areas. Better and more effective clearance work assists your outside runners and gets them more involved also places less pressure on them to win the hard ball, it gives the forwards better delivery, and it takes away pressure form you defenders. Better clearance work will make Tambling and Deledio more effective and dangerous, will make Riewoldt and Hughes better forwards, and make Polak and Thursfield better defenders. All of a sudden things start to fall into place. Your inside on-ballers are your ingnition. I'd love to see us stack this draft with inside on-ballers. 2.Masten, 18.Grimes, 19.McGinnity, 35.Polkinghorne would be a dream for me. I know other areas need addressing also, but hard, tough, inside footy always prevails, and we'd improve immensely if this occured.

You are a very smart poster.

Enjoy reading your thoughts.

My philosophy on pick 2 is simple - get the best, most talented kid through the Punt Road Door. That player without a shadow of a doubt is Trent Cotchin. People have now been caught looking sideays and around at the most ugly word in football "X Factor". We have been bamboozled by it while teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn have just got the best footballers through the door. End result - we a poor developing club never see the X Factor flourish, while those two good developing clubs, see the natural talent enhanced. Pretty simple really. If we just draft the best FOOTBALLER the rest will sort itself out.

On the sources - mine is pretty strong and it is all over the Cale Morton to Richmond, the minds have been made up. Cant wait for Cale to be the new whipping boy at Richmond while the anguish as Trent Cotchin being a Superstar daggers the Heart again.

This club will NEVER learn.

In fact all i,ve heard is Cotchin will be a very good HFF who can occasionally get a run on the ball.Which leads me to think why we will take Morton with pick 2.His brother Mitch also linked with us.I do recall Mitch would have went top 10 when he was drafted if he wasnt picked up by the eagles under the F/S rule. Mitch very much is in the Cotchin mould so why not kill 2 birds with the one stone?

 

[Harry]

Masten would be nice.You can't have them all unfortunately(unless you're Carlton)

My leaning towards Masten is because as the saying goes - you need to crawl before you walk. I just think we need to address the most important part of football first, our most pressing issue, that is our inside clearance work. Once you get this up and running, it becomes easier to address other areas. Better and more effective clearance work assists your outside runners and gets them more involved also places less pressure on them to win the hard ball, it gives the forwards better delivery, and it takes away pressure form you defenders. Better clearance work will make Tambling and Deledio more effective and dangerous, will make Riewoldt and Hughes better forwards, and make Polak and Thursfield better defenders. All of a sudden things start to fall into place. Your inside on-ballers are your ingnition. I'd love to see us stack this draft with inside on-ballers. 2.Masten, 18.Grimes, 19.McGinnity, 35.Polkinghorne would be a dream for me. I know other areas need addressing also, but hard, tough, inside footy always prevails, and we'd improve immensely if this occured.

You are a very smart poster.

Enjoy reading your thoughts.

My philosophy on pick 2 is simple - get the best, most talented kid through the Punt Road Door. That player without a shadow of a doubt is Trent Cotchin. People have now been caught looking sideays and around at the most ugly word in football "X Factor". We have been bamboozled by it while teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn have just got the best footballers through the door. End result - we a poor developing club never see the X Factor flourish, while those two good developing clubs, see the natural talent enhanced. Pretty simple really. If we just draft the best FOOTBALLER the rest will sort itself out.

On the sources - mine is pretty strong and it is all over the Cale Morton to Richmond, the minds have been made up. Cant wait for Cale to be the new whipping boy at Richmond while the anguish as Trent Cotchin being a Superstar daggers the Heart again.

This club will NEVER learn.

In fact all i,ve heard is Cotchin will be a very good HFF who can occasionally get a run on the ball.Which leads me to think why we will take Morton with pick 2.His brother Mitch also linked with us.I do recall Mitch would have went top 10 when he was drafted if he wasnt picked up by the eagles under the F/S rule. Mitch very much is in the Cotchin mould so why not kill 2 birds with the one stone?

How? By taking the 2 Mortons? Still 2 flankers.

 

[Scoop]

Mitch Morton is he viable option if we don't take Cale?

And if yes were does he play? Wing?

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Masten would be nice.You can't have them all unfortunately(unless you're Carlton)

My leaning towards Masten is because as the saying goes - you need to crawl before you walk. I just think we need to address the most important part of football first, our most pressing issue, that is our inside clearance work. Once you get this up and running, it becomes easier to address other areas. Better and more effective clearance work assists your outside runners and gets them more involved also places less pressure on them to win the hard ball, it gives the forwards better delivery, and it takes away pressure form you defenders. Better clearance work will make Tambling and Deledio more effective and dangerous, will make Riewoldt and Hughes better forwards, and make Polak and Thursfield better defenders. All of a sudden things start to fall into place. Your inside on-ballers are your ingnition. I'd love to see us stack this draft with inside on-ballers. 2.Masten, 18.Grimes, 19.McGinnity, 35.Polkinghorne would be a dream for me. I know other areas need addressing also, but hard, tough, inside footy always prevails, and we'd improve immensely if this occured.

You are a very smart poster.

Enjoy reading your thoughts.

My philosophy on pick 2 is simple - get the best, most talented kid through the Punt Road Door. That player without a shadow of a doubt is Trent Cotchin. People have now been caught looking sideays and around at the most ugly word in football "X Factor". We have been bamboozled by it while teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn have just got the best footballers through the door. End result - we a poor developing club never see the X Factor flourish, while those two good developing clubs, see the natural talent enhanced. Pretty simple really. If we just draft the best FOOTBALLER the rest will sort itself out.

On the sources - mine is pretty strong and it is all over the Cale Morton to Richmond, the minds have been made up. Cant wait for Cale to be the new whipping boy at Richmond while the anguish as Trent Cotchin being a Superstar daggers the Heart again.

This club will NEVER learn.

In fact all i,ve heard is Cotchin will be a very good HFF who can occasionally get a run on the ball.Which leads me to think why we will take Morton with pick 2.His brother Mitch also linked with us.I do recall Mitch would have went top 10 when he was drafted if he wasnt picked up by the eagles under the F/S rule. Mitch very much is in the Cotchin mould so why not kill 2 birds with the one stone?

How? By taking the 2 Mortons? Still 2 flankers.

What do you think Cotchin is Harry?
Both Morton,s have excellent footskills Harry.Turnovers kill us time and time again.

 

[Harry]

Masten would be nice.You can't have them all unfortunately(unless you're Carlton)

My leaning towards Masten is because as the saying goes - you need to crawl before you walk. I just think we need to address the most important part of football first, our most pressing issue, that is our inside clearance work. Once you get this up and running, it becomes easier to address other areas. Better and more effective clearance work assists your outside runners and gets them more involved also places less pressure on them to win the hard ball, it gives the forwards better delivery, and it takes away pressure form you defenders. Better clearance work will make Tambling and Deledio more effective and dangerous, will make Riewoldt and Hughes better forwards, and make Polak and Thursfield better defenders. All of a sudden things start to fall into place. Your inside on-ballers are your ingnition. I'd love to see us stack this draft with inside on-ballers. 2.Masten, 18.Grimes, 19.McGinnity, 35.Polkinghorne would be a dream for me. I know other areas need addressing also, but hard, tough, inside footy always prevails, and we'd improve immensely if this occured.

You are a very smart poster.

Enjoy reading your thoughts.

My philosophy on pick 2 is simple - get the best, most talented kid through the Punt Road Door. That player without a shadow of a doubt is Trent Cotchin. People have now been caught looking sideays and around at the most ugly word in football "X Factor". We have been bamboozled by it while teams like Collingwood and Hawthorn have just got the best footballers through the door. End result - we a poor developing club never see the X Factor flourish, while those two good developing clubs, see the natural talent enhanced. Pretty simple really. If we just draft the best FOOTBALLER the rest will sort itself out.

On the sources - mine is pretty strong and it is all over the Cale Morton to Richmond, the minds have been made up. Cant wait for Cale to be the new whipping boy at Richmond while the anguish as Trent Cotchin being a Superstar daggers the Heart again.

This club will NEVER learn.

In fact all i,ve heard is Cotchin will be a very good HFF who can occasionally get a run on the ball.Which leads me to think why we will take Morton with pick 2.His brother Mitch also linked with us.I do recall Mitch would have went top 10 when he was drafted if he wasnt picked up by the eagles under the F/S rule. Mitch very much is in the Cotchin mould so why not kill 2 birds with the one stone?

How? By taking the 2 Mortons? Still 2 flankers.

What do you think Cotchin is Harry?

I'm for Masten.

 

[blx]

My sauces tell me BBQ...time will tell ;D

Sorry couldn't help myself

time will tell...

 

[johnson2richo2003]

I'm for Masten.

I like Masten also Harry however as good as Masten maybe we do have a kid in our ranks already that can do the same role as Masten.If he has a big pre-season i cant see why Daniel Conners being part of the Midfield rotation that is capable of getting the hard ball out to the likes of Tambling,Morton etc.
The Grunt/Feeders:Foley,Tuck,Coughlan,Conners & perhaps Mitch Morton
The Runners:Tambling.Lids,Cale Morton,Edwards

Comes down to Midfield depth hence the 2 birds with the one stone

 

[IrockZ]

cogs has massive question marks, connors is not a genuine inside mid more a creative threat and mitch morton has no chance of getting any hard footy

shows how bare the closet is

 

[ZeroGame]

Bit like Freemantle telling Fiora pre-draft that he didn't suit them and wouldn't be picked up when they really wanted Pav and had to get by us to get him.

That is completley untrue, Fremantle would have taken Fiora over Pavlich, fairly certain they have admitted as much

 

[johnson2richo2003]

cogs has massive question marks, connors is not a genuine inside mid more a creative threat and mitch morton has no chance of getting any hard footy

shows how bare the closet is

You sure about that?

#14 - Daniel Connors - Medium Midfielder (Bendigo Pioneers, VIC) - 182cm, 77kg. DOB 22/09/1988. 2006 U18 AA
I know I picked this bloke in the trial but I certainly gave it a helluva lot of thought. It is no secret the crows need more midfielders, especially in a side that will have a number of them retire in one big hit - Ricciuto, Edwards, Goodwin, McLeod will all go bang bang bang quite rapidly and the engine room will take a strong hit. There is NO substitute for midfield quality, just look at West Coast and Brisbane in their prime. The crows still need to add more to theirs, we have found some good kids in the past in Douglas, VB, Knights, Porplyzia etc but it is time to find more.
I was tossing up between Jetta, Connors, Riewoldt and O'Brien...
Connors is a highly skilled midfielder with an excellent kick and can play both inside and outside. Has good pace, good acceleration and a good strong mark. Is the type of classy midfielder that would slot right into the crows engine room, no fuss, no nonsense, a bloke who will put his head down and get the job done.

 

[IrockZ]

all im saying is that if i had a choice he would belong in the "runners" group moreso than being a feeder

if he gets fit he might be starting in the square more often but atm its hbf/hff

 

[Harry]

I'm for Masten.

I like Masten also Harry however as good as Masten maybe we do have a kid in our ranks already that can do the same role as Masten.If he has a big pre-season i cant see why Daniel Conners being part of the Midfield rotation that is capable of getting the hard ball out to the likes of Tambling,Morton etc.
The Grunt/Feeders:Foley,Tuck,Coughlan,Conners & perhaps Mitch Morton
The Runners:Tambling.Lids,Cale Morton,Edwards

Comes down to Midfield depth hence the 2 birds with the one stone

Tuck not a genuine A Grade inside mid. We persist with him, we end up 9th at best. We also can't hang our hat on Cogs, he has massive question marks. Connors is a pup, but I think his fitness will be a concern. A genuine inside mid needs to get from one contest to another. Endurance is vital. Connors is a talent but I think his fitness base will see him used as a rebounding half back rotating through the middle. Assuming he does become a genuine inside mid, we still only have 2. Not enough. Forget Mitch Morton - if he was an inside mid of any value he would have got a game at WC in the absence of Kerr, Judd and Cousins.

Masten is not the most spectacular and popular choice, but the one that makes the most sense for us IMO. Is he the second best player available? Who's to say. Who's the better player - Sam Mitchell or Luke Hodge? Kane Cornes or Shaun Burgoyne? Nathan Foley or Kane Pettifer? The flashier players are usually more highly regarded as juniors, but are they really the better or more important players?

 

[johnson2richo2003]

all im saying is that if i had a choice he would belong in the "runners" group moreso than being a feeder

if he gets fit he might be starting in the square more often but atm its hbf/hff

The key is his fitness.I have no doubt he can be the feeder of the side along with Foley

 

[johnson2richo2003]

Tuck not a genuine A Grade inside mid. We persist with him, we end up 9th at best. We also can't hang our hat on Cogs, he has massive question marks. Connors is a pup, but I think his fitness will be a concern. A genuine inside mid needs to get from one contest to another. Endurance is vital. Connors is a talent but I think his fitness base will see him used as a rebounding half back rotating through the middle. Assuming he does become a genuine inside mid, we still only have 2. Not enough. Forget Mitch Morton - if he was an inside mid of any value he would have got a game at WC in the absence of Kerr, Judd and Cousins.

Masten is not the most spectacular and popular choice, but the one that makes the most sense for us IMO. Is he the second best player available? Who's to say. Who's the better player - Sam Mitchell or Luke Hodge? Kane Cornes or Shaun Burgoyne? Nathan Foley or Kane Pettifer? The flashier players are usually more highly regarded as juniors, but are they really the better or more important players?

Tuck may not be an A grader inside mid but he adds depth in that area and is capable of getting the hard ball.I agree with Cogs but here,s hoping.Conners is a pup but so is Masten.As far as Mitch Morton goes im not totally sure of his history in regards to if he is a insider or outsider or both.All i know of him he was touted a top 10 pick.
Like i said Harry its all about depth in an area.If we are confident we can turn Conners and M. Morton into grunts then i can see why we will take cale with pick 2.

 

[IrockZ]

as harry said his fitness is poor, couldnt play genuine mid at coburg all year so what makes you think he will do it at afl level anytime soon

he will be a quality hbf/wing option in the future, if we are relying on him to be our engine then we are in trouble

i dont understand all the hype on mitch morton either, eagles didnt pick him in the semi against the pies when they were smashed by injuries and instead went for a 20% fit hansen and a kid like mcnamara, shows how much they think of mitch, stunk it up for claremont in the gf last week also

another danny meyer?