Matthew Clarke

[Dyer'ere]

Excellent points, spook.

BTW I was a huge Rotham fan but I have no regrets in missing one player. Getting champions. That's the challenge. Rotham went earlyish.

Darcy is a ruck. We'll see in time that it's where you take them. Rucks. Just as we saw in 2004-2020. Soldo? Nankervis? Ryan? Value. Not to say I don't love The Fat Kid. But rucks are low income and should be drafted accordingly.

 

[Smoking Aces]

I like McInerney.

Worpel's no loss.

Our failures in 2013-2015 are coming home to roost now. Clarke wasn't the boss then but we're reviewing drafts so I'm putting it in here.

We have no one from the 2013 draft on our list - 26 years of age, prime. George Hewett drafted with the pick we traded for Hampson. Nank, Alex Pearce, J.Kolo, Barrass, Aliir, Ben Brown all taken before our next pick, Nathan Gordon. Byrne-Jones, Fantasia, Sicily, J.Hunt all drafted between Gordon and Sammy Lloyd.

No one remaining from our 2014 cohort apart from the rookies Short, Soldo and George - and Lambert who was of the 2009 class age-wise. We did well in that rookie draft but left a few on the table post-CEllis and Menadue picks.

In 2015 we got Rioli, Markov and Broad but we also traded out our second round picks of that year and the following to get the pick 19 to trade for Yarran. It was worth the risk for the quality and type of player, but a failure of intelligence not to know he was on the pipe. Tom Cole, Blake Hardwick, Bailey Williams (WB) the best of those taken between our traded 2015 second and Markov. Parfitt, Lipinski, Brennan Cox, Sean Darcy, Josh Rotham, Ratugolea, W.Rioli amongst those we could have drafted if we'd held onto our 2016 second for a year and traded that for Caddy instead of Gold Coast's.

3 premierships makes that easier to read. But I get what you are selling.

 

[spook]

3 premierships makes that easier to read. But I get what you are selling.

Oh, of course, Smokes. How's Blair getting back on the horse after the Yarran debacle and signing three premiership players the next year? Blair's the star of our recruiting crew.

 

[Dont Argue]

Oh, of course, Smokes. How's Blair getting back on the horse after the Yarran debacle and signing three premiership players the next year? Blair's the star of our recruiting crew.

I have no doubt Blair is the star of the show

 

[Dyer'ere]

Blair recruited Prestia and Lynch.

Every other star, and there are plenty of them, was recruited by Frank.

 

[Dont Argue]

Blair recruited Prestia and Lynch.

Every other star, and there are plenty of them, was recruited by Frank.

So Blair is not a cherry picker.
Blair is a cherry placer

 

[tigerman]

Blair recruited Prestia and Lynch.

Every other star, and there are plenty of them, was recruited by Frank.

Jack, don't forget Nank, he's my hero.

 

[Smoking Aces]

Blair recruited Prestia and Lynch.

Every other star, and there are plenty of them, was recruited by Frank.

You forgot about Caddy and Nank. These two have been integral to our success.

 

[fastin bulbous]

Zen philosophy?

 

[Smoking Aces]

Just on Blair, I have no doubt he is cooking something for this upcoming trade period. You don’t go out of your way to get such a strong draft hand if there aren’t bigger plans in place.

 

[TigerMasochist]

2018 National Draft Meeting -

The first nineteen picks offered a few stars. We were too good at football to get access to them.

NB From 2017 or even 2016 until now this was and is regarded as a superdraft.

1​	Sam Walsh​	Carlton​	​
2​	Jack Lukosius​	Gold Coast​	​
3​	Izak Rankine​	Gold Coast​	Free Agency compensation pick (Lynch)​
4​	Max King​	St Kilda​	​
5​	Connor Rozee​	Port Adelaide​	Traded from Brisbane Lions​
6​	Ben King​	Gold Coast​	Traded from Melb; received from Freo, Bris, Port, Freo​
7​	Bailey Smith​	Western Bulldogs​	​
8​	Tarryn Thomas​	North Melbourne​	Next Gen. Academy (Indigenous) - North matched Crows bid.​
9​	Chayce Jones​	Adelaide​	​
10​	Nick Blakey​	Sydney​	Academy selection​
11​	Jye Caldwell​	GWS Giants​	Traded from Essendon​
12​	Zak Butters​	Port Adelaide​	​
13​	Isaac Quaynor​	Collingwood​	Next Generation Academy selection (Ghanaian descent)​
14​	Jackson Hately​	GWS Giants​	Traded from Freo; received from Port, N.M.​
15​	Jordan Clark​	Geelong​	​
16​	Ned McHenry​	Adelaide​	Traded from Sydney​
17​	Sam Sturt​	Fremantle​	Traded from Greater Western Sydney​
18​	Xavier Duursma​	Port Adelaide​	Traded from Hawthorn​
19​	Liam Stocker​	Carlton​	Traded from Adelaide at the draft; received from Melbourne​

Geez. Not too many spuds in that lot. Couldn't get our hands on any of those or the *smile* cup either. *smile* of a bloody year.

 

[TigerMasochist]

What has happened to Mosquito?

Popped a knee n then recently decided to go back home for a spell. Comment in the Hun a week or so ago that Essendrugs aren't really expecting him to come back.

 

[Dyer'ere]

Sorry about the Nank oversight, fellows.

But you can have Caddy!

 

[The_General]

I like McInerney.

Worpel's no loss.

Our failures in 2013-2015 are coming home to roost now. Clarke wasn't the boss then but we're reviewing drafts so I'm putting it in here.

We have no one from the 2013 draft on our list - 26 years of age, prime. George Hewett drafted with the pick we traded for Hampson. Nank, Alex Pearce, J.Kolo, Barrass, Aliir, Ben Brown all taken before our next pick, Nathan Gordon. Byrne-Jones, Fantasia, Sicily, J.Hunt all drafted between Gordon and Sammy Lloyd.

No one remaining from our 2014 cohort apart from the rookies Short, Soldo and George - and Lambert who was of the 2009 class age-wise. We did well in that rookie draft but left a few on the table post-CEllis and Menadue picks.

In 2015 we got Rioli, Markov and Broad but we also traded out our second round picks of that year and the following to get the pick 19 to trade for Yarran. It was worth the risk for the quality and type of player, but a failure of intelligence not to know he was on the pipe. Tom Cole, Blake Hardwick, Bailey Williams (WB) the best of those taken between our traded 2015 second and Markov. Parfitt, Lipinski, Brennan Cox, Sean Darcy, Josh Rotham, Ratugolea, W.Rioli amongst those we could have drafted if we'd held onto our 2016 second for a year and traded that for Caddy instead of Gold Coast's.

I agree with all the players you've pointed out Scoop, but there's an intangible to what we did.
We changed our culture. Gale had a strategy of getting into finals, with a roster in a heavily compromised draft era. We started to win. Gordon was my whipping boy. All the right physical attributes, but not sure I've seen anyone panic more. But, players like him improved the list and gave some cover while our younger players developed. No doubt they improved our depth instantly and started lifting the benchmark for what was needed. They just weren't good enough to take us where we needed to go.
I like to think that those players helped get us to where we are. I'm not sure kids would have done that.
We absolutely shat the bed with the C.Ellis draft picks though. Egads, just getting those first two (meadue the other) right would have us better placed now.

 

[bengal tigers]

Blair recruited Prestia and Lynch.

Every other star, and there are plenty of them, was recruited by Frank.

Cotchin,Jack,Shed,Rance ,where recruited by Miller

 

[Greenie]

Sorry about the Nank oversight, fellows.

But you can have Caddy!

Anyone can have Caddy in 2021 but I'll take him in 2017 - 2019. Still a win in my opinion.

 

[spook]

Cotchin,Jack,Shed,Rance ,where recruited by Miller

No, they were recruited by Frank. Frank was deeply concerned that Miller's plan to trade pick 8 for Polak would cost him Jack, until he went to the Tassie grand final and there wasn't another recruiter there.

 

[bengal tigers]

No, they were recruited by Frank. Frank was deeply concerned that Miller's plan to trade pick 8 for Polak would cost him Jack, until he went to the Tassie grand final and there wasn't another recruiter there.

Your right Fj took over as recruiting manager at the end of 2005,Miller went to football manager .

 

[The_General]

No, they were recruited by Frank. Frank was deeply concerned that Miller's plan to trade pick 8 for Polak would cost him Jack, until he went to the Tassie grand final and there wasn't another recruiter there.

I thought the story was the other way around.

He was concerned it had cost him Jack because he went to Tassie and a dozen other clubs where there.

 

[bengal tigers]

I thought the story was the other way around.

He was concerned it had cost him Jack because he went to Tassie and a dozen other clubs where there.

I think Miller ran around blabbing that the Tiges where into Frawley or Everitt,,,Miller has a much more out going personality than Fj ,and was telling that story to whoever listened.
Miller was a good wheeler and dealer,but the Tiges gave him to much power ,,,The messiah syndrome.