Marriage Equality

[Djevv]

you think sex education is harmful for primary school aged children. I think religious education is harmful for primary school aged children. would you accept it if religious education and sex education were both banned until high school age?

I have spoken repeatedly on this. I'm fine with age appropriate diversity education. I even outlined what it might look like in that age group if you read my post. Sex education is NOT in the Australian Curriculum for children of this age. And I think that is about right. What on Earth is going on in Britain wonder?

What you think about RE is of very little interest to me. I only reiterate that people are fully within their rights to bring up their children in whatever religious tradition they believe in this country.

 

[poppa x]

And in a poll released today, 63% of Australians believe religion causes harm.

 

[Djevv]

Sorry Djevv but your tunnel vision on this is outstanding. Religious indoctrination is generally perpetrated on very young minds and is successful mostly by dint of constant reinforcement. Sexuality is mostly biological and whether you choose to acknowledge it there are probably same-sex-attracted kids who are aware of this from a young age. Anyway who is 'burdening' these kids? All anyone is talking about is lifting a burden placed on them by 'tradition' and religious bigots who think they are malformed.

Why does everyone keep banging on about religion? The only conclusion I come to when reading this is you are entitled to your views but just don't force them on innocent children.

What do you think is happening in Sex Ed classes mate? Instructional videos on different positions? Good blow job technique?

This is what is coming if SSM gets in. They are already doing this sort of thing in the Safe Schools curriculum.

don't remember ever having Sex Ed at my Catholic school but I suspect it is mostly about safe sex practices, issues of consent and STDs. etc. And all only in classes where the discussion is age appropriare. No 6yr old Sex Ed I don't think. That was left to the priest. (He wasn't big on consent either). None of which has anything to do with allowing your friends and neighbours to get married.

Yes this is what is happening now. No issues here. I have taught this stuff! Yes sex-ed is not in the Australian curriculum for 6yo here but apparently is in the UK, and they threaten you with closure if you dont! Wonder why that is?

I couldn't give a monkey's about what this school was doing. Yes it is important for any school to give its students a well rounded education. That might mean that even though the local population doesn't include many French people they might still learn a little European history including the French Revolution. It also means that while homosexuality in the community may be statistically low it is still covered in relevant classes. Schools are attempting or aspiring, one would hope, to turn out well rounded thoughtful citizens at the end of their education.

ok

Some of us are connecting the dots and getting a nice seaside landscape with a same-sex couple picking shells. Some are ending up with Bacchanalia. How do we bridge that divide?

This already happens under current legislation so its a no, for no change from me. Marriage is between a man and a woman and its worth celebrating with its own special institution.

 

[Harry]

And in a poll released today, 63% of Australians believe religion causes harm.

Which religion?

 

[tigertim]

Which religion?

Any

 

[Brodders17]

This thread needs to stick to topic.
Sex education in schools is irrelevant.

 

[1eyedtiger]

This thread needs to stick to topic.
Sex education in schools is irrelevant.

So what you're really saying is that the 'no' campaign should stick to the topic? :rofl

 

[Rosy]

Several posts have been removed from this thread following reports by other PREnders. A reminder that this is a family forum.

 

[tigerman]

Yes gets the nod.

 

[Rosy]

Yes gets the nod.

Good and expected. Unbelievable waste of money and resources. They should have had the guts to make a decision in the first place.

 

[tigerman]

Victoria at 64.9% had the highest yes vote out of all the states, Canberra at 74% had the highest yes vote.

 

[year of the tiger]

Victoria at 64.9% had the highest yes vote out of all the states, Canberra at 74% had the highest yes vote.

Pretty strong result - across all states and territories - across all age groups.

But Abbetz on 774 trying to argue that 38% was a strong vote and should still have a say in the process (argued it was higher than the conservative primary vote should carry some weight).

Finally we can move on

 

[tigerman]

Pretty strong result - across all states and territories - across all age groups.

But Abbetz on 774 trying to argue that 38% was a strong vote and should still have a say in the process (argued it was higher than the conservative primary vote should carry some wait).

Finally we can move on

I wonder what Abbetz says to 133 of the 150 federal seats voting yes.

Interestingly Abbott's seat of Warringah recorded a 75 per cent yes vote.

 

[year of the tiger]

I wonder what Abbetz says to 133 of the 150 federal seats voting yes.

Interestingly Abbott's seat of Warringah recorded a 75 per cent yes vote.

That was interesting, I wonder what the vote was in Abbetz seat?

 

[tigersnake]

Good and expected. Unbelievable waste of money and resources. They should have had the guts to make a decision in the first place.

x2. Pathetic government. How is this Paterson joker bravely fighting for the human rights of bigot bakers to refuse to bake wedding cakes for lesbians? Really focussed on the big issues. You can't make this sh!t up.

 

[thegdog]

Society is officially dead

 

[LeeToRainesToRoach]

Society is officially dead

It's democracy at it's finest. Frankly I agree that Western civilisation in decline, but that's another discussion.

 

[tigersnake]

Society is officially dead

Officially? Have they passed a decree to that effect? People are still walking around and doing normal everyday stuff where I am, so its still chugging along here ATM at least.

 

[tigersnake]

The first time I felt something in my 'loins' was in grade 6 - as a 12 year old.

x2. Helen Bartlett in a skin tight 'Life be In It' T-shirt, she was a year older high-school kid. :shakehead Remember it like yesterday 8-

 

[Panthera Tigris]

I wonder what Abbetz says to 133 of the 150 federal seats voting yes.

Interestingly Abbott's seat of Warringah recorded a 75 per cent yes vote.

Sydney is an interesting anlysis.

The safest Liberal, largely wealthy, anglo-saxon electorates, which typically have large chunks of cashed up baby boomers, voted overwhelmingly yes (Warringah being one of them). The multicultural, working class electorates of western Sydney that are the safest of ALP seats (and have come to represent modern Australia), that the political left fawn over, voted strongly no.

It brings me to a related point. This issue has had many more generally leftist activist types piggy backing onto it, using it as a grandstand to convey their wider prejudices. This morning I've seen many comments inferring, "sucked in to the pale, stale old bigots of white Christian baby boomer Australia." When in actual fact, polling continually showed that multi-cultural Australia actually supported SSM in lower numbers than the general populace. But this is an inconvenient truth to the "White-Anglo males, the root of all bigotry in the world" narrative.