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Majak Daw
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jb03 said:
How has North handled it diabolically? I reckon the media have whipped up a frenzy and alluded to the suspension being due to unrelated, and seemingly irrelevant, incidents. According to North Daw was suspended for being out at a night club while on rehab. Seems fair enough to me if that's their rules.
rosy23 said:
He also lied to the coach about being out (while having photos of his night out splashed across Facebook). Its been poorly handled because they suspended him indefinitely without giving a reason. Thats like a red rag to a bull with the media. Its ended up with all the other irrelevant stuff being uncovered and becoming part of the story.
IanG said:
I think that's more of a media issue. It's not North's fault the media are so lacking in integrity and accuracy these days. I don't think any club should be obliged to publicly justify or explain their decisions or disclose internal rules and/or individual player issues.
The Age covered this far better than the H/S article linked to.
Sliding Daw
Jon Pierik
February 9, 2012
NORTH Melbourne coach Brad Scott last night revealed ground-breaking rookie Majak Daw had been suspended for lying to the club.
Scott told The Age Daw had been sent to train with Werribee in the VFL indefinitely because he had broken club protocol and gone out to a nightclub during rehabilitation from knee surgery.
It also emerged yesterday that Daw owed a couple of teammates up to $1000 each and had been dating the former girlfriend of ex-teammate Daniel Pratt, who was delisted at the end of last season.
However, Scott quashed speculation that those issues had contributed to the leadership group's decision to suspend Daw.
The Kangaroos had initially opted not to disclose the reasons behind Daw's ban, saying only that he had broken ''cultural expectations and training standards''.
But Scott was forced to publicly clarify the situation last night ''because of disappointing rumours and innuendo''.
"Unfortunately, there is an element out there that want to bring Majak down and have seen fit to spread rumours about him,'' he said in a statement.
Scott told The Age: ''Essentially … he breached protocol in that he went out … when he shouldn't have, when he was injured.
''Then when I asked him about it, he was untruthful. That was then referred to the leadership group and they have acted.''
Scott was candid when disclosing other issues surrounding Daw, the first Sudanese-born player on an AFL list.
''Unfortunately, with Majak's profile, the highest profile of any player to never play a game of AFL football yet … there are untruths being spoken at the moment,'' he said.
''His suspension is wholly and solely due to when he shouldn't have been going out and then being untruthful.
''There are two other issues that I have been aware of for a very long time and, to be honest, are trivial and don't concern me.
''One is that he has owed players some money. Those players don't have an issue with it. He is working on repaying them. We are talking about trivial amounts of money … below a thousand [dollars].
''It is completely unrelated to his suspension.''
Scott did not want to divulge the names of players who were owed money.
''The second thing that I am forced to deal with that I shouldn't have to is he is dating Daniel Pratt's ex-girlfriend,'' he said.
''Majak assures me, and did a long time ago, that his conduct has been completely above board, and I take him at his word.''
Scott said his understanding was that there had been a 16-month gap between the woman splitting with Pratt and going out with Daw.
''To suggest there has been any impropriety is ludicrous. He has assured me that his conduct has been completely above board,'' he said.
Scott said Daw, 20, had not found trouble on his night out.
''Majak is not a big drinker. To my knowledge, there is no alcohol involved [or] gambling involved. He didn't do anything illegal. He wasn't ejected.
''It was simply that he was out at a nightclub when he was in rehab, and he shouldn't have been.''
Scott said the Kangaroos did not have an official curfew for players. ''We just have cultural expectations that players are not to go out when they are injured, as simple as that.''
He also denied the Kangaroos had attempted to hide the full truth when chief executive Eugene Arocca and football manager Donald McDonald refused to disclose specifics in a press conference earlier yesterday.
The Kangaroos had also released a statement.
''People insinuating that this has been a cover-up, that is completely incorrect,'' Scott said.
''The reason I didn't go into detail why he was suspended because I don't feel obligated to give a blow-by-blow description. Cultural expectations and training standards are the truth.''
Daw's misdemeanour does not enhance his hopes of pressing for a spot on the Kangaroos' senior list. He was re-signed to a two-year contract in October.
Daw was taken with pick No. 9 in the 2010 rookie draft. He played a full season as Werribee's key ruckman last year, but has been unable to impress enough to gain selection in the AFL.
Scott said Daw had work to do to regain the faith of his coaches, skipper Andrew Swallow and the leadership group before he would be welcomed back into the fold.
''That has been spelt out to him. He has been extremely remorseful and knows that he has a long way to go to regain the trust of the players and support staff,'' he said.
Daw's manager, Shane Casley, said his client was determined to return to the Kangaroos' training group as soon as possible.
Daw moved to Australia with his family in 2003, having spent three years living in Egypt with his parents and siblings after they fled the Sudanese civil war.
Sliding Daw
Jon Pierik
February 9, 2012
NORTH Melbourne coach Brad Scott last night revealed ground-breaking rookie Majak Daw had been suspended for lying to the club.
Scott told The Age Daw had been sent to train with Werribee in the VFL indefinitely because he had broken club protocol and gone out to a nightclub during rehabilitation from knee surgery.
It also emerged yesterday that Daw owed a couple of teammates up to $1000 each and had been dating the former girlfriend of ex-teammate Daniel Pratt, who was delisted at the end of last season.
However, Scott quashed speculation that those issues had contributed to the leadership group's decision to suspend Daw.
The Kangaroos had initially opted not to disclose the reasons behind Daw's ban, saying only that he had broken ''cultural expectations and training standards''.
But Scott was forced to publicly clarify the situation last night ''because of disappointing rumours and innuendo''.
"Unfortunately, there is an element out there that want to bring Majak down and have seen fit to spread rumours about him,'' he said in a statement.
Scott told The Age: ''Essentially … he breached protocol in that he went out … when he shouldn't have, when he was injured.
''Then when I asked him about it, he was untruthful. That was then referred to the leadership group and they have acted.''
Scott was candid when disclosing other issues surrounding Daw, the first Sudanese-born player on an AFL list.
''Unfortunately, with Majak's profile, the highest profile of any player to never play a game of AFL football yet … there are untruths being spoken at the moment,'' he said.
''His suspension is wholly and solely due to when he shouldn't have been going out and then being untruthful.
''There are two other issues that I have been aware of for a very long time and, to be honest, are trivial and don't concern me.
''One is that he has owed players some money. Those players don't have an issue with it. He is working on repaying them. We are talking about trivial amounts of money … below a thousand [dollars].
''It is completely unrelated to his suspension.''
Scott did not want to divulge the names of players who were owed money.
''The second thing that I am forced to deal with that I shouldn't have to is he is dating Daniel Pratt's ex-girlfriend,'' he said.
''Majak assures me, and did a long time ago, that his conduct has been completely above board, and I take him at his word.''
Scott said his understanding was that there had been a 16-month gap between the woman splitting with Pratt and going out with Daw.
''To suggest there has been any impropriety is ludicrous. He has assured me that his conduct has been completely above board,'' he said.
Scott said Daw, 20, had not found trouble on his night out.
''Majak is not a big drinker. To my knowledge, there is no alcohol involved [or] gambling involved. He didn't do anything illegal. He wasn't ejected.
''It was simply that he was out at a nightclub when he was in rehab, and he shouldn't have been.''
Scott said the Kangaroos did not have an official curfew for players. ''We just have cultural expectations that players are not to go out when they are injured, as simple as that.''
He also denied the Kangaroos had attempted to hide the full truth when chief executive Eugene Arocca and football manager Donald McDonald refused to disclose specifics in a press conference earlier yesterday.
The Kangaroos had also released a statement.
''People insinuating that this has been a cover-up, that is completely incorrect,'' Scott said.
''The reason I didn't go into detail why he was suspended because I don't feel obligated to give a blow-by-blow description. Cultural expectations and training standards are the truth.''
Daw's misdemeanour does not enhance his hopes of pressing for a spot on the Kangaroos' senior list. He was re-signed to a two-year contract in October.
Daw was taken with pick No. 9 in the 2010 rookie draft. He played a full season as Werribee's key ruckman last year, but has been unable to impress enough to gain selection in the AFL.
Scott said Daw had work to do to regain the faith of his coaches, skipper Andrew Swallow and the leadership group before he would be welcomed back into the fold.
''That has been spelt out to him. He has been extremely remorseful and knows that he has a long way to go to regain the trust of the players and support staff,'' he said.
Daw's manager, Shane Casley, said his client was determined to return to the Kangaroos' training group as soon as possible.
Daw moved to Australia with his family in 2003, having spent three years living in Egypt with his parents and siblings after they fled the Sudanese civil war.
The Age article is good. North have made a mistake because they should have just said the reasons why he was suspended straight off and this other speculation would not have happened. I am not defending the media ferals at the HUN, I hate the trash journalism they pedal out, but it was always going to happen when North told 25% of the story and it shouldn't have needed to be that way. I hate that clubs have to pander to them as well, but they do unfortunately.
All they had to do was say that he was suspended for being at a Night Club in rehab and lied to the Coach, end of story.
I am no fan of Robert Walls but I heard him on SEN this morning saying that the Club has done Majak Daw no favours by trying to keep the reasons in house, in fact they have made it worse for him. It's unfortunate but true imo.
All they had to do was say that he was suspended for being at a Night Club in rehab and lied to the Coach, end of story.
I am no fan of Robert Walls but I heard him on SEN this morning saying that the Club has done Majak Daw no favours by trying to keep the reasons in house, in fact they have made it worse for him. It's unfortunate but true imo.
When should clubs announce their actions? RFC didn't give any public explanation when Dan Connors was suspended and the public was none the wiser. They would have been if we'd done what people reckon North should have done. It only becomes an issue if the media get wind of something. If the clubs explained that kind of thing publicly as a matter of course there would be a lot of info out there that the media, and thus the general public, would never have known about. I know of a player issue that has been covered up by RFC. I think they did the right thing to keep it quiet rather than go public in case the media got onto it. The media didn't report it and everybody got on with things. I still remember the humiliating 3 ring media conference we put Richo through when he was sent back to Coburg for a game. I'm glad we seem to have moved on from those days.
To me its the half pregnant argument Rosy. You either tell the truth and kill the story or you say nothing and keep it in house. I would prefer the latter but its not always possible.rosy23 said:
North picked middle ground and that was there mistake imo. They just fueled the fire.
Sintiger said:
Ok I've missed something here so don't understand the middle ground sorry. Did North contact the media about Daw's suspension but not give details? I assumed North were quiet, as we were with Dan's suspension, but the media got onto it forcing them to give details to kill the speculation.
ToraToraTora said:
Yep I pretty much agree. Very ordinary reporting. I suppose some support it because it was North involved but I'd hate for RFC to experience the same treatment. Isn't Warner our club pet journo? Any coincidence there wasn't a similar story about Dan's suspension?
yeah they did. can't remember exactly what they said but they announced something like he had been suspended indefinitely for breaking team rules. The media already had the stuff about the borrowing money and the girlfriend of the ex player in their back pockets and added 1+1 and got about 10.rosy23 said:
With the facts now out about what he actually did I can't see how that whole story could not have been given.
Sintiger said:
Stories about who is dating whom and who owes money to whom have generally not been fair game. Our media need access to players and a bit wary of burning their sources but getting into the gutter. I mean Cousins and co ran riot in WA and barely a whisper made the media because no Eagles stories would have sunk the West Australian and the local TV news into nothingness.
But North? Much easier target. I doubt Warner would have taken on a club that sells papers like us or Collingwood or the Bombers.
There'd be dozens of rookie-listed players who owe teammates money. It is pretty tough to live on the $30k grand they have been receiving until now; and when some of your mates are earning $400k borrowing a few hundred to get the car fixed is no big deal. And dating a teammates ex-girlfriend? There are some clubs where half the players have dated the same girl at some point or other (looking at you St Kilda).
