ahyeahnah said:Really...? Are you related to him? He had five years and couldnt kick dogsh!t off his shoelaces
Dean Hart Northey said:I am surprised people rated this dud! And even more surprised they still speak of him.
Dean Hart Northey said:I am surprised people rated this dud! And even more surprised they still speak of him.
easy said:didnt Beaner win the VFL goalkicking from 15 games or so?
A good player, just a step of AFL.
Think about the bile you spill, internet warriors.
Baloo said:Angus Graham held the VFL record for hitouts at one stage with over 60. VFL records don't mean that much.
Which in turn means that you are better than most.easy said:they mean your a pretty good vfl player.
But not quite the Messiah.josey said:Which in turn means that you are better than most.
Good, measured post Leon. A rarity on this thread!leon said:Would have to say that only 5 games over four years is not much of a go IMO. Other clubs would have persevered more, been more patient and got more games into him. Just compare the number of games Dimma gave Morris as a SF. And then a couple of times, his usually reliable goal-kicking deserted him, maybe nerves. If he had have slotted a couple of those snags, would have made a difference for all concerned perhaps.
His body was just the wrong type to make an early impact as a big man. Could still become a successful mature-age player if he keeps playing possibly.
Baloo said:The fact we've been too patient with the likes of Elton has me thinking it was more than just physical traits that had McJesus crucified. A common theme of the VFL reports was McBean's lack of defensive and second efforts. Sounds like he just didn't follow instructions.
leon said:Or maybe he styled his game on Vickery's? Seriously though, most of the big guys know they just don't have the speed or agility to catch and tackle the running backs who bring the ball out, unless you're Lance Franklin fast.
Baloo said:The fact we've been too patient with the likes of Elton has me thinking it was more than just physical traits that had McJesus crucified. A common theme of the VFL reports was McBean's lack of defensive and second efforts. Sounds like he just didn't follow instructions.
Baron Samedi said:Too slow in the end.
Too slight to be KPF, not nippy enough to be a flanker.
Tigers of Old said:Yep ultimately his body shape held him back. Some tricks for sure, just wouldn't have been able to make the transition to a key tall position at AFL level.
Like I said from ways back Carts, can't think of another 200+cm player like him who's ever succeeded in the style he plays.
The_General said:We may have treated him like another 200cm player, when he wasn't. Sometimes trying to turn someone into something you want them to be, rather than turning them into what they should be can happen. Sad bit is although he's very talent, we'll never find out the answer.