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Justice?
- Thread starter Legends of 2017
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Disco08 said:
* Convicted of the crime by a court of law
* No shadow of a doubt that that person has committed the crime.
In the case of Milat.....if he had an accomplice or not...it certainly isn't going to change my mind on what should happen to him.
In fact, if anything....it makes it worse for him, as he obviously hasn't admitted or named the other party...so he isn't co-operating, which just justifies my views even further.
Disco08 said:
From what I've read and heard, yes....more than happy to flick away.
Now a question for you to answer for a change...what circumstances of the case don't you believe, that he should be spared?
Are you related to him?
Six Pack said:
Then good on those conservatives....that is their opinion and they are entitled to it.
If you want to get into a discussion about the case, start a thread about it. That wasn't the point however.
I've spent alot of time studying this case from the time it was happening through to recent developments. I think most people that have a similar knowledge of the events wouldn't be so quick to condemn Milat to death.
I was merely interested to know how flippant you are with these type of decisions. The answer was as expected and unsurprisingly consistent with what you've demonstrated.
I've spent alot of time studying this case from the time it was happening through to recent developments. I think most people that have a similar knowledge of the events wouldn't be so quick to condemn Milat to death.
I was merely interested to know how flippant you are with these type of decisions. The answer was as expected and unsurprisingly consistent with what you've demonstrated.
this is just my opinion guys,but i think everytime the death penalty is administered its just another step backwards for humanity.I just think that its a throwback to a time when little thought was given to solving problems ,especially of an ethical nature.
In my opinion life is not black and white(darn magpies),but just different shades of grey
In my opinion life is not black and white(darn magpies),but just different shades of grey
Disco08 said:
Did you ever see the History Channel docos on executioners?
I know Liv is ready to flick the switch, but if you either want to become suicidal or be a social outcast, it seems the best job in the world to do it.
Disco08 said:
This is the thread for it Disco...as Milat has been a topic on this "Justice" thread before and we are talking about justice here.
Anyway, seeing that you deem yourself to have more knowledge about this case than I...won't you please answer the question, as I have answered every question asked of me:
So, for his crimes and taking into account the "circumstances" you know...what should his punishment be?
Life? 20 years? Death? let out?
What exactly?
I'm interested in YOUR opinion on what justice should be handed down to Milat.
Livers, if you're interested enough in discussing the case in detail, as I said make a thread specifically.
As I've already said Milat should be treated the same as any other person convicted of a crime in this country, and he hasn't been. Unless you want to start that thread let's just leave it at that.
As I've already said Milat should be treated the same as any other person convicted of a crime in this country, and he hasn't been. Unless you want to start that thread let's just leave it at that.
Disco08 said:
Disco...this is the "justice" thread....and we are talking about justice for a criminal...why do we need a new thread?
Stop making excuses and tell us what sentence, from your knowledge of the case, that Milat should receive?
I've told you my view, now let's hear yours.
OK. Milat deserves to have his appeal heard the same as any other criminal in Australia. Evidence that was never taken into account either because it was suppressed or has come to light since needs to be looked at.
Because, contrary to what you seem to believe, there are many facts and details concerning this case that need to be taken into account to make a proper judgment. Too many to discuss in a thread that isn't titled 'Ivan Milat', or something to that effect.
Liverpool said:
Because, contrary to what you seem to believe, there are many facts and details concerning this case that need to be taken into account to make a proper judgment. Too many to discuss in a thread that isn't titled 'Ivan Milat', or something to that effect.
Disco08 said:
O.k...fair enough then Disco....and I agree with you that all criminals (or the "accused", shall we say) deserve the right to a fair trial.
But all I am asking you is a simple question.
From the facts and detals YOU know, what do you think he deserves as punishment?
Or do you think he is innocent altogether?
I'm not asking for a whole case history here....just what your final result from what you know, thats all.
I'm not 100% certain he's innocent, but I am 100% certain that he hasn't been afforded his rights and that there is a lot of evidence which is contrary to his guilt. So in that respect I think under the innocent until proven guilty justice system employed in Australia he should have had his appeal heard a long time ago and all the available evidence should be taken into consideration before a verdict is declared.
As for what he deserves, that's a pointless question until proper process determines what he is actually guilty of.
As for what he deserves, that's a pointless question until proper process determines what he is actually guilty of.
Disco08 said:
O.k...that's your opinion.
It would be interesting to hear the opinion of Ian and Jaquie Collins, whose daughter Joanne, had been stabbed viciously in the heart and lungs with one wound so deep that it had cut deep into her spine.
The cut to the spinal-cord was done before the fatal ones, therefore rendering her incapacitated while Ivan Milat did what he wanted with her.
And you want to talk about how Milat hasn't been afforded his rights?
Well, you tell me about the rights of Joanne and the other 6 backpackers who were killed in the most sadistic and barbaric way....when did he afford these people their rights.......to simply live?
