Josh Caddy | PUNT ROAD END | Richmond Tigers Forum
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Josh Caddy

Fed up with the social and moral hypocrisy of the AFL who has the gall to tell you about the dangers of gambling and then throw it in your face every minute of every day!!!

I’d like the AFL to get microphones out of the faces of the players and as far away from the bloody umpires as possible. Problem solved. What’s said on the field, in the heat of battle, stays out on the field. End of story!! :spin
 
Tigerdangerous said:
Fed up with the social and moral hypocrisy of the AFL who has the gall to tell you about the dangers of gambling and then throw it in your face every minute of every day!!!

I’d like the AFL to get microphones out of the faces of the players and as far away from the bloody umpires as possible. Problem solved. What’s said on the field, in the heat of battle, stays out on the field. End of story!! :spin

Yep

Media need some controlling
 
Tigerdangerous said:
Fed up with the social and moral hypocrisy of the AFL who has the gall to tell you about the dangers of gambling and then throw it in your face every minute of every day!!!

I’d like the AFL to get microphones out of the faces of the players and as far away from the bloody umpires as possible. Problem solved. What’s said on the field, in the heat of battle, stays out on the field. End of story!! :spin
Yep cameras in the rooms, microphones on field, interviews as players are coming on or off the field. Media demands 24 / 7 access to everything for the shekels they are paying for content. There used to be a proviso / gentlemen's agreement that they wouldn't slaughter the players if the player was caught out inappropriately.
Now the media revels in catching out players and accidentally or unaware picking his nose n chewing, adjusting his lolly bag, abusing an opponent, behaving less than perfectly on a mad Monday etc etc and humiliating them. There's massive return in ratings n revenue for the media for all the scandals n outrage they are able to generate n the players are nothing more than meat for their purposes.

Media complains that players n coaches n clubs generate nothing more than official bland tripe over and over yet wonder why? It's because they lead the outrage, destroy the context, over analyse to the Nth degree, humiliate n butcher anyone who's reasonably honest n open with them.
 
Tigerdangerous said:
Fed up with the social and moral hypocrisy of the AFL who has the gall to tell you about the dangers of gambling and then throw it in your face every minute of every day!!!

I’d like the AFL to get microphones out of the faces of the players and as far away from the bloody umpires as possible. Problem solved. What’s said on the field, in the heat of battle, stays out on the field. End of story!! :spin

Im not aware the AFL has had any view on what Caddy said.
the best thing would be for Caddy not say stupid things.

saying there should be no microphones doesnt remove what he said. what happens when he, or anybody, uses the term next to the boundary in front of the kid who gets called that at school cos of their disability? or to the player who has the sibling/child who has been picked on all their life because they are a 'spastic'?

is racism ok if no tv viewers hear it?
 
Baloo said:
Yeah I don't agree. Having grown up in Australia in the 70s and 80s and watching a fair bit of World Series Cricket, people from Pakistan we're called Pakis. Made sense, just shorten it like we do everything and no malice intended at all.

If it wasn't for a quick thinking english friend who jumped to stop sh!t happening before it started, I would have gotten a decent beating for calling a group of English Indians "Pakis". I never realised how offensive it was to them. That was my issue, not theirs.

Yep. 'Abo' was another one. Just a shortening of words which is actually meant to sound more (informal) friendlier to the person.
 
TigerForce said:
Yep. 'Abo' was another one. Just a shortening of words which is actually meant to sound more (informal) friendlier to the person.

So is playing against the 'Windies' also racist...?
 
PBoRSM said:
Before I say this, I want it known that I am upset by senseless violence particularly towards women and children as well as taunting to people who are physically smaller and therefore unwilling to taunt back for fear of violence or unable to effectively taunt back for fear of additional ridicule.

That said.

The biggest issue for all of us is that we all draw the line of what's reasonable in a different place. Some of us don't like kids swearing or people swearing in front of kids. Some of us don't like the use of sexist remarks at all, whereas some of us might think sexist remarks are ok if use as a joke in male company. There's a million examples of things that we get subjected to that may or may not invoke feelings of hurt, anger, embarrassment, disgust and it's different for all of us.

By there not being an easy way to draw a line of reasonability, we are forced to draw the line to match the values of the most easily offended people in each instance. This is not representative of mainstream society, but the most easily offended wins the argument every time, because they draw the line and they are taking the high road.

The resentment from society who, as a whole, would collectively draw the PC line a little lower to allow for some levity and the odd faux pas, is simply, "Why does someone who doesn't represent the values of middle society get to decide what's PC and what's not PC? Who made them the arbitrator of PC? The answer, they did and no one's able to effectively argue against their position.

So what do we do? The only way to combat PC is to either
- manage the court of public opinion (what Cadds did by his conditional apology, which of course contains, "if I offended anyone, I'm sorry". Meaning he's only going to be contrite based on the feelings of others, not whether he thinks what he did is below his own PC line)
- call people out who try to align your moral compass with theirs (probably not possible or advisable for public figures - Trump tries this in a boorish way and is nothing but consistent. It sounds like he doesn't care, but what he's saying most of the time is, "Your opinion on how I should think means about as much to me as my opinion on how you should think means to you. Go away").

I simply decide if I value the person or their opinion and if so, then I usually offer a conditional apology. Yes, I'm sorry I upset someone I respect, but I'm not contrite for what I did or said.
If I dont know or respect them, I simply suggest that I won't be taking life advice from people I don't care about. Go away. (It's usually I little stronger than go away though).

Stopping looking at PC as your problem to solve and start looking at PC as someone's else problem to deal with. If they are offended, that's their issue not yours - unless your reputation is important to you or you care about the person.

Insightful post! You nailed it at the end too "If they are offended, that's their issue not yours - unless your reputation is important to you". I'll play along with PC views on twitter in fear of hurting my future professional career. I don't even follow controversial figures I enjoy because I know it could cost me a future position.
 
123kid said:
Insightful post! You nailed it at the end too "If they are offended, that's their issue not yours - unless your reputation is important to you". I'll play along with PC views on twitter in fear of hurting my future professional career. I don't even follow controversial figures I enjoy because I know it could cost me a future position.

Just ditch twitter
 
TigerForce said:
Yep. 'Abo' was another one. Just a shortening of words which is actually meant to sound more (informal) friendlier to the person.

Are you serious?