Still waiting for Bengals to come up with a data set that disproves the 80% indigenous support for The Voice.
He won't.
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Indigenous Voice Yes or No?
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Still waiting for Bengals to come up with a data set that disproves the 80% indigenous support for The Voice.
He won't.
it includes the share of services available to all australians that relate to the indigenous populationWithout doing much research into it,because l can't be stuffed today
Here's an article from 2 years ago,also l will add that lm guessing that all expenditure includes all from states/Territories as well.
The Cape York Institute submission said: “Given that the total spend on Indigenous affairs in Australia is nearing $35bn annually
Australian government knows 'very little' about whether money spent on Aboriginal programs works
Productivity Commission report finds evaluation largely lacking of programs costing millions of dollarswww.theguardian.com
There is no doubt that some of these programs don't work, so much of what is being done in indigenous affairs has not worked which to me strengthens the case to do something different
Thats why the Royal commission recommended the NIAA.
NIAA started in 2019,and covid hit ,so l guess some programs where hinded,and the NIAA have backed that.
If you put something into the constitution ,and it doesn't work what then?
Its only role is to provide advice. If the advice turns out to be *smile* then parliament can change the members and the structure.
If you put all the detail in the constitution you're f**cked.
If you put all the detail in the constitution you can't make changes.
The proposal, as you surely know (hmm, maybe not given the sources you quote) is deliberately open, the parliament controls who are members of the Voice and how it operates.
If the NIAA had an impact they would abolish it, that's why this must go in the constitution.
DS
Central Land Council leaders say Jacinta Nampijinpa Price ‘needs to stop pretending we are her people’
Ninety leaders in Northern Territory issue statement condemning comments from Coalition spokesperson on Indigenous Australians
Maybe having so many people on a council is part of the problem ,because money isn't .Central Land Council leaders say Jacinta Nampijinpa Price ‘needs to stop pretending we are her people’
Ninety leaders in Northern Territory issue statement condemning comments from Coalition spokesperson on Indigenous Australians
I guess like most councils across Australia,councilors get a decent salary,and if Dutton had his way with a regional voice they wouldn't need so many people involved .
The first big step towards division
New documents reveal that the goal has been to change Australia in a fundamental way. In a more divisive way. So we’re no longer one country together, but two divided.
www.fairaustralia.com.au
Support for an Indigenous Voice to parliament has dropped, with just over half of Victorians pledging to vote yes, while 17 per cent are still undecided.
A Roy Morgan survey, conducted this month, found less than half of Australians now support the constitutional change, which is a seven per cent dive in support since December last year.
The survey revealed just 46 per cent would vote yes, compared to an increased 39 per cent who would not support it. Fifteen per cent of respondents were still unsure.
The survey results found 46 per cent would vote yes in the referendum. Picture: Getty
In Victoria, 52 per cent of people surveyed said yes to the Voice.
But the number of Victorians opposing the voice has increased by three per cent – to 31 per cent.
Roy Morgan CEO Michele Levine said support for the Voice had dropped across both genders and all age groups, with support down in all six states. “As of mid-April, only Victoria maintains majority support for The Voice,” she said.
More people in South Australia (50 per cent) and Queensland (46 per cent) said they would vote.
Originally published as Support plummets for Indigenous Voice to parliament, survey finds
A Roy Morgan survey, conducted this month, found less than half of Australians now support the constitutional change, which is a seven per cent dive in support since December last year.
The survey revealed just 46 per cent would vote yes, compared to an increased 39 per cent who would not support it. Fifteen per cent of respondents were still unsure.
The survey results found 46 per cent would vote yes in the referendum. Picture: Getty
In Victoria, 52 per cent of people surveyed said yes to the Voice.
But the number of Victorians opposing the voice has increased by three per cent – to 31 per cent.
Roy Morgan CEO Michele Levine said support for the Voice had dropped across both genders and all age groups, with support down in all six states. “As of mid-April, only Victoria maintains majority support for The Voice,” she said.
More people in South Australia (50 per cent) and Queensland (46 per cent) said they would vote.
Originally published as Support plummets for Indigenous Voice to parliament, survey finds
Opposition to the Indigenous voice to parliament is hardening although the proposed constitutional change enjoys majority support with 60% in favour, the latest Guardian Essential poll finds.
Guardian Essential poll: Indigenous voice retains majority support but sees opposition harden
No voters to constitutionally entrenched body remain at 40%, while Coalition leader Peter Dutton sees approval drop to 44%
Land council are not local council, not politicians, they are representatives of traditional owners. they live in the and are part of the communities the support. They are not members of a political party (tho i think they can be), they are not toeing a party line, then making claims to support that party line. While land councils are far from perfect, but they are not politicians- any regional voice will not have any effect on the role of land councils.Maybe having so many people on a council is part of the problem ,because money isn't .
I guess like most councils across Australia,councilors get a decent salary,and if Dutton had his way with a regional voice they wouldn't need so many people involved .
The CLC is a federal statutory authority under the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern
Territory) Act. It is governed by an elected council of 90 Aboriginal people, both men and
women. The CLC area is divided into nine regions and the regional boundaries are based
on the 15 language groups within the area. Elections for the council are held every three
years and each region is represented by 10 delegates.
The 90 regional delegates elect the chair of the council, deputy chair and members of the
Aboriginal Benefits Account Advisory Committee. The Australian Electoral Commission
assists in conducting the election. The role of the Aboriginal Benefits Account Advisory
Committee is to advise the federal Minister for Families, Housing, Community Services
and Indigenous Affairs regarding payments to the Aboriginal Benefits Account. The 10
members of each regional delegation also elect one of their members to the Executive
Committee of the council.
At the regional level, Aboriginal communities nominate their 10 delegates on a consensus
basis. Apart from providing assistance to transport community members to nomination
meetings, the CLC is not involved in what is essentially a community process, managed
within family groups. The transparency and validity of the election and nomination
processes have not been a contentious issue over the life of the CLC.
The full council meets three times a year and is the supreme policymaking forum of the
CLC. The Executive Committee meets approximately monthly and holds extensive powers
delegated by the council, making it the most active high-level forum. The day-to-day running
of the CLC is managed by the Director, in consultation with the Executive Committee.
The Director oversees about 120 staff engaged to carry out the CLC’s responsibilities
Yep, not a local council.
I've had pretty close dealing with land council, so have a fair idea of what they are and how they operate.
There are seperate local councils responsible for council jobs in the areas the CLC and other land councils operate.
Yeah ,l was more insinuating that they get paid for being on that council.
90 people being on the council ,and thats just for one area of the Territory seems quite excessive .
What burrow did you come out of .
They might be united ,but Australia isn't .
Yep, they're more united than us, all the more reason to give them a voice, more likely to be a voice of reason.
DS
And there's the Solicitor General's advice out in the open. Not only is the proposed voice compatible with our system of Government, but it enhances it. Advice that is at complete odds to what Dutton was spruiking a week ago.
Speaking of Dutton, he seems to have gone into hiding after he completely *smile* up the trip to Alice. Hiding behind Leys and letting her embarrass herself in public rather than doing it himself. Effective Delegation. True Leadership.
Speaking of Dutton, he seems to have gone into hiding after he completely *smile* up the trip to Alice. Hiding behind Leys and letting her embarrass herself in public rather than doing it himself. Effective Delegation. True Leadership.
