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Hardwick

zippadeee said:
Because he thinks things will always turn around like in the Carlton final, like the north final and even in last years preliminary final.
He doesn’t react, the only change after being slapped by Collingwood did he do? He moved killer Markov foward and Weller back.

Yep.
Dimma's not much of a match day coach, when plan A isn't working.
 
If they chip it around go 1-1. *smile* me it's not that hard. Leaders should be all over it even without runners.
 
Having McQualter in charge of a billion dollar forward line doesn't fill me with much confidence either. Also, why did we go after Kingsley? What's he done to date?

Our forwards and mids have not clicked in 4 games so far.
 
lamb22 said:
The issue is allowing so many loose men, especially over the back after quite a lot of slow build up play by the Pies. Technically that's Dimma's bailiwick but I hope Blake lends a hand there.

This. We are usually much much tighter. We went away from what makes us good. Expecting us to re adjust.
 
Harry said:
This. We are usually much much tighter. We went away from what makes us good. Expecting us to re adjust.
Edwards said in a brief interview at half-time as he came off the ground that they weren't too concerned about the way the Pies defenders were chipping to each other around the back line. He said it was our mids and players further up the ground that were getting beaten. Well yes they were getting beaten but where was our defensive pressure from our forwards to stop the Pies defenders doing what they liked? In the past we have started many forward moves in our last line of defence doing just that...Grimes to Rance to Astbury to Flossy switching to the other flank and off we go. The Pies have copied that system pretty well.
We also looked flat-footed and too easily out-marked even when we started alongside an opponent who quickly got front position or out-bodied us to take the mark. If they keep playing with that lack of urgency there will be no September action for us this year.
 
Dimma rightly thought we peaked to early in '18

And slowing this juggernaught down takes a deft hand.
 
easy said:
Dimma rightly thought we peaked to early in '18

And slowing this juggernaught down takes a deft hand.

:hihi

What price do you reckon we'll be able to get easy?
 
Of course he won’t say it, but the loss of Rance would have badly affected our players mentally in the short term. Despite winning the flag and being minor Premiers last year, we are still a relatively inexperienced team. It was made more so last week by not having Houli, Grigg and Caddy unavailable. Most of them have never inexperienced something like the serious injury to Rance and it played with their heads and their approach to the game. They’ve shown in the past that they don’t react well to that sort of disruption.
 
easy said:
Dimma rightly thought we peaked to early in '18

And slowing this juggernaught down takes a deft hand.

I think there is a fair bit in this too. We are clearly not firing on all cylinders as yet and look to be prepared to give injured players as long as they need.

The next few games is about survival. Win 5 or 6 of the first 11, unearth a young player or two who demands a spot in the first 22, slowly bring back Caddy, Grigg and Riewoldt and we could storm home.

A late start to the season, or an injury that keeps him out for a while can be a godsend for an older player.
 
Hardwick , Carecella & Balme will have heave a plan for the next few weeks .A tough month coming up, 2 out of the next 4 will be ok ..
 
TOT70 said:
I think there is a fair bit in this too. We are clearly not firing on all cylinders as yet and look to be prepared to give injured players as long as they need.

The next few games is about survival. Win 5 or 6 of the first 11, unearth a young player or two who demands a spot in the first 22, slowly bring back Caddy, Grigg and Riewoldt and we could storm home.

A late start to the season, or an injury that keeps him out for a while can be a godsend for an older player.

Problem is you need to be 15 - 5 to be guaranteed a top 4 these days. We don't want to finish outside of that surely? Got to be winning games. No matter how ugly
 
TOT70 said:
I think there is a fair bit in this too. We are clearly not firing on all cylinders as yet and look to be prepared to give injured players as long as they need.

The next few games is about survival. Win 5 or 6 of the first 11, unearth a young player or two who demands a spot in the first 22, slowly bring back Caddy, Grigg and Riewoldt and we could storm home.

A late start to the season, or an injury that keeps him out for a while can be a godsend for an older player.

You can't just suddenly decide to start winning.
 
Following our dominance in the latter part of 2018, it's interesting for me to reflect on how my views of talent vs culture have kind of shifted a little towards the talent side of the scales.

Now that our sum total of talent has been reduced, it's humbling to remember we've never actually been the most talented team, and everything that led to our dominance is still firmly in place today. I'm sure there'll be debate over a number of technical changes Hardwick will need to make this month, but the situation still calls for team unity, identity, togetherness, etc. - key pillars of Hardwick's coaching.

By reinforcing that Richmond culture, half the other problems can be solved accidentally, and I have great confidence in Dimma doing just that.
 
Dont think we can do Top 4. Goal should be finals and be fit and fresh. We can string 4 great games in row at the end.
 
15-7 got top 4 last year, 14-8 was 5th and imth8nk this year will be even more even, I don’t think all is lost just yet.
 
123kid said:
Following our dominance in the latter part of 2018, it's interesting for me to reflect on how my views of talent vs culture have kind of shifted a little towards the talent side of the scales.

Now that our sum total of talent has been reduced, it's humbling to remember we've never actually been the most talented team, and everything that led to our dominance is still firmly in place today. I'm sure there'll be debate over a number of technical changes Hardwick will need to make this month, but the situation still calls for team unity, identity, togetherness, etc. - key pillars of Hardwick's coaching.

By reinforcing that Richmond culture, half the other problems can be solved accidentally, and I have great confidence in Dimma doing just that.

I don't think we dominated the latter part of 2018. Warning signs were there in the last few rounds that the comp was working us out.
 
jb03 said:
I don't think we dominated the latter part of 2018. Warning signs were there in the last few rounds that the comp was working us out.

Exactly. That's the reason why I wasn't that upset losing to Collingwood in the preliminary final. The way we were playing and the way they beat us was played precisely to script, you could see it coming a mile off. Sometimes you have to accept you're not good enough. Conversely that's why I am so upset and disturbed about the loss last Thursday night. It was like Hardwick and co had spent the whole summer writing off the preliminary final as just a bad night. How we played and how we structured was just too similar. And what really makes me despair is although as 2017 has shown whilst Hardwick has the capacity to learn and to adapt, he can take a bloody long time to do it. I don't want 2019 to be another season of Hardwick 'learnings'.

It is amazing how topsy turvy the two AFL rounds have been. A club could genuinely do a 2016 Western Bulldogs and steal it. For example we get Reiwoldt back and play him like the all Australian and Coleman medalist that he is and not a makeshift ruckman we could still do it. There is no shame in 'Bradburying' a premiership, the shame is allowing another team to do it and not doing it yourself when you had the opportunity. Then I really would be annoyed.
 
Tygrys said:
Exactly. That's the reason why I wasn't that upset losing to Collingwood in the preliminary final. The way we were playing and the way they beat us was played precisely to script, you could see it coming a mile off. Sometimes you have to accept you're not good enough. Conversely that's why I am so upset and disturbed about the loss last Thursday night. It was like Hardwick and co had spent the whole summer writing off the preliminary final as just a bad night. How we played and how we structured was just too similar. And what really makes me despair is although as 2017 has shown whilst Hardwick has the capacity to learn and to adapt, he can take a bloody long time to do it. I don't want 2019 to be another season of Hardwick 'learnings'.

It is amazing how topsy turvy the two AFL rounds have been. A club could genuinely do a 2016 Western Bulldogs and steal it. For example we get Reiwoldt back and play him like the all Australian and Coleman medalist that he is and not a makeshift ruckman we could still do it. There is no shame in 'Bradburying' a premiership, the shame is allowing another team to do it and not doing it yourself when you had the opportunity. Then I really would be annoyed.

bang on tygrys
 
Tygrys said:
Exactly. That's the reason why I wasn't that upset losing to Collingwood in the preliminary final. The way we were playing and the way they beat us was played precisely to script, you could see it coming a mile off. Sometimes you have to accept you're not good enough. Conversely that's why I am so upset and disturbed about the loss last Thursday night. It was like Hardwick and co had spent the whole summer writing off the preliminary final as just a bad night. How we played and how we structured was just too similar. And what really makes me despair is although as 2017 has shown whilst Hardwick has the capacity to learn and to adapt, he can take a bloody long time to do it. I don't want 2019 to be another season of Hardwick 'learnings'.

It is amazing how topsy turvy the two AFL rounds have been. A club could genuinely do a 2016 Western Bulldogs and steal it. For example we get Reiwoldt back and play him like the all Australian and Coleman medalist that he is and not a makeshift ruckman we could still do it. There is no shame in 'Bradburying' a premiership, the shame is allowing another team to do it and not doing it yourself when you had the opportunity. Then I really would be annoyed.

Too right!

DS
 
CarnTheTiges said:
Of course he won’t say it, but the loss of Rance would have badly affected our players mentally in the short term. Despite winning the flag and being minor Premiers last year, we are still a relatively inexperienced team. It was made more so last week by not having Houli, Grigg and Caddy unavailable. Most of them have never inexperienced something like the serious injury to Rance and it played with their heads and their approach to the game. They’ve shown in the past that they don’t react well to that sort of disruption.

The loss of Rance seems to have badly affected our coaches mentaly in the short term.