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Greyhound threads [Merged]
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jb03 said:
The Victorian Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act has the following offences that may apply to the trainers.
"A person who does or omits to do an act with the result that unreasonable pain or suffering is caused, or is likely to be caused, to an animal commits an act of cruelty upon that animal and is guilty of an offence and is liable to a penalty of not more than, in the case of a natural person, 246 penalty units or imprisonment for 12 months."
"A person who commits an act of cruelty upon any animal which results in the death or serious disablement of the animal commits an act of aggravated cruelty upon that animal and is guilty of an offence and is liable to a penalty of not more than, in the case of a natural person, 492 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years."
"A person who uses an animal as a lure or kill for the purpose of blooding greyhounds or in connexion with the training and racing of any coursing dog keeps or has the custody, care or control of an animal for use as a lure or kill for the purpose of blooding greyhounds or in connexion with the training and racing of any coursing dog is guilty of an offence and is liable to a penalty of not more than, in the case of a natural person, 240 penalty units or imprisonment for 2 years"
In theory, all these offences could be applied at the same time, and each time an animal was killed. A penalty unit is about $150.
There may be problems with the footage being obtained illegally, ultimately it being up to the individual magistrate as to whether to admit it.
History made tonight with Fernando Bale winning the Adelaide cup and becoming the first greyhound in the world to win 1 million $ prizemoney .The greatest greyhound to ever race in Australia .
Probably the last chance tonight people to see the best dog ever to race anywhere in the world .
Fernando Bale is racing in the Melbourne Cup tonight the richest race in the world .A win tonight which is worth 420, 000 will take his tally to 1.6 million .
10 group finals 10 wins
33 wins 40 starts
30 wins past 33 starts
I know greyhound racing has copped alot of bad press lately and rightly so but if you want to see the greatest of all the tonight will be your last chance .
Fernando Bale is racing in the Melbourne Cup tonight the richest race in the world .A win tonight which is worth 420, 000 will take his tally to 1.6 million .
10 group finals 10 wins
33 wins 40 starts
30 wins past 33 starts
I know greyhound racing has copped alot of bad press lately and rightly so but if you want to see the greatest of all the tonight will be your last chance .
69 vintage said:
or everyone can not go and not support an industry that kills up to 17,000 dogs a year. (Greyhound Australasia's own figures). That is 17,000 healthy dogs that are killed because they are not needed.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-28/nsw-greyhound-racing-industry-in-crisis-inquiry-hears/6809724
(and for Navy's benefit- this article is not comedy.)
69 vintage said:
while supporting an industry that kills up to 17,000 dogs a year, plus any number of other animals used as bait.
anyone giving a dollar to the greyhound industry is saying that is ok.
Each to their own .
I'll watch tonight and appreciate a champion if that means I support the thousands of dogs being killed each year as you say then so be it .
I know my 11year old greyhound know's how I feel about this noble breed .
I'll watch tonight and appreciate a champion if that means I support the thousands of dogs being killed each year as you say then so be it .
I know my 11year old greyhound know's how I feel about this noble breed .
69 vintage said:
They are a noble breed...very much so. Owning one would make me feel all the more sad about how the others are treated and the cruelty inflicted on other creatures. I'd vote for the abolition of greyhound racing in a heartbeat. It will always be tainted in my mind.
Have the incidents that have come out this year changed your thoughts on greyhound racing rosy ?
Earlier posts in the greyhound thread you state you would like to give greyhound training a try .
The abolition of greyhound racing will wipe out the breed as pet greyhounds have to be desexed .
Earlier posts in the greyhound thread you state you would like to give greyhound training a try .
The abolition of greyhound racing will wipe out the breed as pet greyhounds have to be desexed .
hg69 vintage said:
Yes they have 69. And being a bit older and giving it more thought. To me training a greyhound was a bit of a fairy tale as a dog lover. I hadn't really given it any consideration.
I don't pretend to have a solution to the future of the breed. It wouldn't necessarily wipe the breed out. There are people who show greyhounds and they have to be in tact for that. They could be bred and sold as desexed pets, as lots of breeds from reputable breeders. The thought of the breed being wiped out is no justification for the cruelty and trauma the racing experience is for so many of them imo.
69 vintage said:
perhaps on entry at the races every patron should personally get to murder an unwanted dog.......
and i am glad you have one and love it and it has a good life. that is what dogs, all dogs, deserve. not to be murdered when they are no longer 'useful'.
Brodders17 I often visit the RDPCA in Burwood East every week.
It saddens me that each week that I have been going lately, there seems to be more and more Greyhounds. The look on their faces is heartbreaking. I love dogs and living in an apartment it's no place for a dog, but it doesn't stop some tenants having one.
I often say to myself I just wished I was retired, on a farm, large block with plenty of funds and they would be on the top of my list. They are majestic and once they are not useful or not any good good for racing they are dumped.
We can't forget the cruelty inflicted but it's not the breeds fault but some lowlife trainers/owners.
The look on this dogs eyes is imprinted in my mind now.
It saddens me that each week that I have been going lately, there seems to be more and more Greyhounds. The look on their faces is heartbreaking. I love dogs and living in an apartment it's no place for a dog, but it doesn't stop some tenants having one.
I often say to myself I just wished I was retired, on a farm, large block with plenty of funds and they would be on the top of my list. They are majestic and once they are not useful or not any good good for racing they are dumped.
We can't forget the cruelty inflicted but it's not the breeds fault but some lowlife trainers/owners.
The look on this dogs eyes is imprinted in my mind now.
waiting said:
I doubt anyone would argue it's the breed's fault waiting. The industry has a lot to answer for in regards to it's treatment of animals. The dogs at the RSPCA are probably the lucky ones. You hear some really sick stories. True dog lovers wouldn't churn puppies out at the rate of knots then murder the majority who don't live up to their lofty standards. Barbaric behaviour.
I love dogs and animals and will have a dog till the day I die.
I hate it when i hear of someone who has been found guilty of cruelty, and is not not allowed to own that type of animal for 5 or 10 years. They should never be allowed to own any type of animal again.
The people who run puppy farms are nothing but scum, the conditions that they are kept in are are disgrace. A lot of them are sold in pet shops, so i will never buy a dog from a pet shop.
I hate it when i hear of someone who has been found guilty of cruelty, and is not not allowed to own that type of animal for 5 or 10 years. They should never be allowed to own any type of animal again.
The people who run puppy farms are nothing but scum, the conditions that they are kept in are are disgrace. A lot of them are sold in pet shops, so i will never buy a dog from a pet shop.
17,000 are not killed brodders.
17,000 that are bred for racing DIE.
about 4,000 of those die in the first week of their life, which is normal for animals.
1,000 die due to injury (sad).....people die from injuries too.
1,000 die from accidents/health.
but yes it is about 10-11,000 a year are killed which is nice.
harness racing is 20,000 and horse racing is 25,000 KILLED.
17,000 that are bred for racing DIE.
about 4,000 of those die in the first week of their life, which is normal for animals.
1,000 die due to injury (sad).....people die from injuries too.
1,000 die from accidents/health.
but yes it is about 10-11,000 a year are killed which is nice.
harness racing is 20,000 and horse racing is 25,000 KILLED.
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