Is it the mullet?
He's definitely very likeable cause he just gets on with it, no big ego and he's accessible. And he has the putting and demeanour to win a major.
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He's definitely very likeable cause he just gets on with it, no big ego and he's accessible. And he has the putting and demeanour to win a major.
He’s a ripper McGinley . Really like that best holes in golf show he does, wet the appetite for playing Royal County Down in a few months
Yeh, its a ripper show. Be great to play a round with a guy like him.
Wow, always wanted to play RCD, will get there one day. You playing Portrush as well?
Unlikely , at this stage playing Gotemba in Japan , RCD only in Ireland to play that at this stage , Carnoustie, royal Liverpool , Royal St Anne’s , will probably have a game somewhere near St Andrews , going to try for Royal St George’s while in London. Would like to play that old head that was on Mcginitys show but can’t see how I can fit it in
Yeah I don’t mind Chamblee. His historical knowledge and stats memory bank is off the charts. Best of all though, unlike a lot of sycophants in the media, he’s not afraid to have a crack at a player or two, or the Tour, over something the he believes needs airing.
Yeh, he's going against the grain with his opinion on the 17th here so has the courage of his conviction.
I love watching the golf analysis shows at the majors etc, never knew they existed until last year. Love McGinley's addition this tournament, not sure if he has done previous tournaments?
Do you think what he said had merit though Red?
He was in particular scathing of 17, admitted he once thought it was the worse hole in golf, but had come around somewhat, but still hated what he saw 2 days ago.
As you know I am a big fan of the hole, I thought that was gripping sport watching the best players in the world not only miss what normally should be an easy target, but miss it by quite a margin.
I didn’t mind what he had to say. Equally, I didn’t mind McGinley’s view.
All Chamblee was doing was airing what a few players hinted at afterwards, and that was that 17 is a bit of a crap shoot in such wild conditions. Read Koepka’s comments and what him, Scheffler and Schaufelle experienced there. They all got trapped hitting different shots with different clubs due to the changing air current that huge amphitheater creates.
Koepka didn’t think the course was unfair, but he had reservations about 17. The green is only 25 yards from front to back so hitting a knock down with a7 iron or 8 iron in changing air currents in that sort of weather is very unpredictable. Do you deserve an automatic bogey with no opportunity to get up and down in those conditions ? That’s what Chamblee was going on about. And it’s a general problem with the course itself: it takes away the recovery shot on so many holes. You wouldn’t see Bubba’s hook wedge at Augusta on Sawgrass. Would be an automatic bogey or worse.
I reckon 17 is questionable and the course is pretty gimmicky as well. Not my favourite and it’s never traditionally been liked that much by players, the media etc. either.
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Fair enough, I get where you are coming from.
But golf, for mine, is not meant to be a fair sport. Sometimes you are on the right side of the draw, sometimes not.
Sometimes you get a great bounce, sometimes a crap one.
sometimes you hit a shot skinny and it finishes 3 feet from the hole, sometimes you flush it and bounces through the green.
I‘m not sure what the answer to Chamblee’s issues are, and by extension the players you mentioned.
Maybe they want a couple of mulligans a round perhaps? (tongue firmly planted in cheek there)
For mine it’s golf, sh!t happens.
That’s not really the issue. They have no problem accepting a less than ideal shot. Or rub of the green. What they have a problem with is not being allowed to play a remarkable recovery shot. It’s just an automatic bogey or worse.
As Alistair Mackenzie said, he didn’t like having too many holes that were an automatic bogey or double bogey from an errant shot. Instead, unless it was a complete rank shot out of bounds, he preferred making the player think about playing an outstanding recovery shot - or even two of them - to try and save par.
Much more interesting. More tactical and skill based. More fun. Better than just a bland, penal “HOOOOONK ! Automatic bogey or double.” Boring.
Stifles creativity across the round when the course is set up with endless water hazards. It’s just re load or drop …and take a penalty. Boring.
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That’s what is great about Augusta. You can drive it all over the shop and still shoot a score. It encourages creativity.
Ok, point well made and I can accept that point of view.
But 17 at Sawgrass is a unique hole on the PGA tour, there aren’t many anything like it.
I like the fact it offers something different, get It right you are sweet, don’t and you pay a price.
I like the hole and the challenges in can present, but if others don’t like it that’s fine too.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as they say.
Whatever one‘s view is, it certainly sparks interesting debate.
Or, conversely you can break the bank trying to get out of a jam. Risk reward.
Or, in fact, you can be striping it but leave yourself with completely the wrong angle and should have throttled back …or whatever.
Not just constantly making the player think “Oh *smile*…. Hope I don’t hit it in the massive 300m lake down the side of the fairway.” That’s *smile* course design. Uninspiring.
Anyone can build a course like that.
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Yeah. Todd hit one there last year too.
There’s been a few over the years. To that end, yes, the mental aspect of the hole is intriguing.
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Had to laugh this morning while I was watching. I think it was Doc Redman's caddy, anyhow whoever it was rode 7 miles on his pushbike into a head wind to the course because the traffic was so bad.
The poor bugger did it all for nothing because Redman didn't hit a shot in anger because of the weather and his tee time.
That was Joel Dahmen’s caddy I think. Geno.
Those two are very funny. See if you can find the clip where Dahmen makes him eat chillies or something as a challenge during a practice round. Think it was at Sawgrass actually. Very funny.
