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I can tell u one thing, as a state firefighter our bush conditions are changing dramaticaly when i strarted we would have maybe 2 to 3 weeks of extreme conditions with maybe 200 to 300 fires across the state these days our fire season goes for maybe 9 months and we get around 800 to 1000 fires per year on public land and they are some savage fires
 
hillmen said:
I can tell u one thing, as a state firefighter our bush conditions are changing dramaticaly when i strarted we would have maybe 2 to 3 weeks of extreme conditions with maybe 200 to 300 fires across the state these days our fire season goes for maybe 9 months and we get around 800 to 1000 fires per year on public land and they are some savage fires

Hill Billy

Are there any other factors involved with the increase in bushfires?
This city boy, hears stories about a lack of forest maintenance, banning of alpine grazing etc.
Any truth in any of this?
 
Tiger74 said:
My guess is you cannot. I hear there is a guy up there called Liverpoolsen who is trying to ban all immigration into Greenland as he is terrified of the soon to be idealic Greenland becoming a haven for climate change refugees. Apparently his people have been there for years, and he is furious his taxes will not only be helping dole bludging bong heads, socialists, and the arts, but now foreigners who should just accept their lot and either drown or build an ark.
Add to this, the fact that these "refugees" could be terrorists......it all bodes badly for downtown Greenland.
At the same time though, he still walks down mainstreet of Keryibooork wearing his full ski suit in the middle of summer yelling out "Climate change my %$$#. Its still %$^#(&^ cold here and Al Gore don't know what he is talking about".
For what its worth, he also barracks for a second rate football team that couldn't win a cracker to save itself, but thats slightly off topic. :hihi

This Liverpoolsen sounds like a smart fellow looking after his own fellow Greenlanders first instead of ruining their future by trying to 'save the world' and overpopulating a small country. ;)
Must be an Everton fan though if he is following a third-rate football team , as we both know that the two best team in Liverpool are Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves. ;D
 
Liverpool said:
This Liverpoolsen sounds like a smart fellow looking after his own fellow Greenlanders first instead of ruining their future by trying to 'save the world' and overpopulating a small country. ;)
Must be an Everton fan though if he is following a third-rate football team , as we both know that the two best team in Liverpool are Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves. ;D

I have an update on Liverpoolsen.

Unfortunately the guy is now serving time at His Magesty's Pleasure.

It turns out the DTO (Danish Taxation Office) has disallowed his claim for AUD 73,729 equivalent in tax deductions. Reason being they were not to an authorised charity. Liverpoolsen tried to argue that charity should be determined by the individual, and not some socialist red flag waving pencil pusher back in Copenhagen. The case was going well until the true recipient of the funds was determined, that being Liverpoolsen himself. Liverpoolsen tried to argue that charity begins at home, so that means donating to himself, but the judge was not impressed.

Before being taken away, Liverpoolsen was heard to be saying that at least his tax dollars would now be subsidizing a cushy and soft lifestyle for him behind bars, and thanks for the lefties out there his time behind bars should be more comfortable than spending time down at the Goooduvnga Caravan Park for the Annual Deer Eating Festival.
 
True micheal there is a lack of forest maintenance as our beloved state govt dosent see it as a good idea to employee more people people in my line off work they seem to think it enough to have people writting polocies rather than doing the ground work. in regards to alpine grazing i beleive it has minimal impact there are enough deer up in them there hills to do the job for the cattle.
The drought is having an enourmous impact with areas of rainforest which 5 years ago would barely burn now tinder dry, these areas traditionaly helped in suppresion along with wet gully systems but now fire just goes straight through them one good point on the whole thing is that over the last couple of years fires have reduced fuel loads in about a sixth of the state the bad is areas like the dandenongs and other urban fringes are primed and ready to go

Looks like another busy year
 
Did you fight the ACT fires in 03 hilly? They were a perfect example of what poor planning and management and 24 months of drought can do.
 
hillmen said:
The drought is having an enourmous impact with areas of rainforest which 5 years ago would barely burn now tinder dry, these areas traditionaly helped in suppresion along with wet gully systems but now fire just goes straight through them one good point on the whole thing is that over the last couple of years fires have reduced fuel loads in about a sixth of the state the bad is areas like the dandenongs and other urban fringes are primed and ready to go

The trouble is that when rainforest burns it's most likely to be replaced by eucalypts. Then those wet gullies will neve be fire retardents again.
 
I wasnt in ACT, i was in omeo ( dinner plain ) the so called great alpine fire.
ACT was all planning issue, pine plantations accross the road from residential developments is asking for disaster.
 
It's not like they were new suburbs or plantations either. The government had been warned many times about the inherent dangers.

I'll never forget that day though, unbelievable. Pitch black at 2pm.
 
Disco08 said:
Did you fight the ACT fires in 03 hilly? They were a perfect example of what poor planning and management and 24 months of drought can do.

The pine forrests where in place about 30 years before any residental housing.
 
I don't think it really makes a difference which was there first. It's still extremely poor planning to have the forest so close to the urban interface.
 
Ghost Who Walks said:
The pine forrests where in place about 30 years before any residental housing.

so it was bad residential planning

Disco08 said:
It's not like they were new suburbs or plantations either. The government had been warned many times about the inherent dangers.

I'll never forget that day though, unbelievable. Pitch black at 2pm.

last seasons was about 3 months of the same
 
lol, I bet a beer tastes pretty fuckn good after a day in those conditions.
 
Disco08 said:
I don't think it really makes a difference which was there first. It's still extremely poor planning to have the forest so close to the urban interface.

Unfortunately there is a finite area that is Canberra; as NSW will not let the boundries expand.

Since the boundaries are set where do you expect them to build houses?

The Government used the pine forrest as revenue; residental housing encroached as the population expansion was unforeseen.

As for forrest the whole Capital is surrounded by trees hence the moniker "Bush Capital".

Do you want the local Government to remove all trees in Canberra and the Brindabella's?

I live in Canberra, so I was here for the fires..
 
There's a massive difference between the way pine plantations and native forest burn. All they had to do was keep the pine plantations away from the urban interface as numerous reports had suggested. Indeed, Burley-Griffin's original blue prints called for substantial grassland stretches between urban areas and the surrounding bush for that exact scenario.

Asking if I want all the trees removed is ridiculous hyperbole. The measures the government was warned to take would have saved hundreds of homes, not to mention human life.
 
There is a similar thing happening in the latrobe valley they are planting vast tracts of bluegum plantation around the power stations and erasing the farmland fire break around them
 
You would've known the dudes who got stuck in the fire truck at Dinner Plain,Hillmen?