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General Trade Discussion 2022
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The talk was that cats were already into Bowes at the start of the year.
Maybe they had inside info that he would departing for salary cap reasons and there would be an incentive to take him on (I.e early draft pick).
Possibly other teams including north had no chance (to get Bowes) as they were so far behind the 8 ball. Only finding out about the salary damp recently.
Where’s the fun in discussing young players if you’re only dealing in facts?
Notice the AFL are making noises about closing the salary dump window again. How convenient - they open it for this deal and then say that didn't work so we're going to change it back. How *smile* stupid do they think we are?
Exclusive footage of your average Melbourne/Hawthorn fan:
Reverse psychology? "C'mon kid! We know you can't do it!"
There's talk Collingwood's offer to pay 300k of Grundy's salary was if they got a first-rounder. For pick 27, Melbourne might be stumping up 850. They can obviously afford it, probably by paying bare minimum for key forwards but you get what you pay for.
Mitchell will be interesting to watch under Fly. Will have to be rebroken to use the ball forward.
They don't care if we're stupid or see right through them as many of us do. They just care that we're powerless.
How many of them would you pay $700k a year for ?
martin , McEvoy & Mummy have all been cooked for their last 2 years and Stanley is an athletic beast that has cray physical attributes but not a genuine Ruck imo. Ryder yes but has probably missed as much as he has played.
But i dont rate Rucks highly unless they are Gawn level (which i rate alot higher than Grundy as a player not just Ruck)
Nah. That's a potential breach next year, because it's still this year they aren't breaching yet. All they have to do is dump a player or two off the list during trade week and they're in with a clean sheet for next year.
Reckon Bowes has played it fairly smart. Pretty sure he restricted the possibles to Hawforn, Essendrugs n Moggies, then chose the Moggies.
Hawforn, just finished cleaning out their closet so he'd probably be a walk up start there but not much chance of team success for a while.
Essendrugs, simply all over the shop with their coaching, admin n list management in recent years so who knows what the hell he'd be getting into.
Moggies, well run club n competitive forever so he's extended his years for a short term pay cut but ultimately more shekels overall. Duckwood gone, Clench nearly gone, Guffrie, the proper one, nearly gone, Tooheys nearly gone, Puncan n Manygollies also nearly gone so there'll be plenty of opportunities opening up for him to finally become a regular senior player in the next couple of years.
He'd be seriously spudding up if he can't manage 30 goals a year with Smelbourne's dominant mid field supplying him ball. Gawn / Grundypants ruck combo with Peetrakka, Olly, Viney, Harmes, plus Brayshaw, Salem etc bringing the ball forward.
Yeah they didn’t like the look of it but were helpless ( if you want to believe that , no proper rules in place ) and allowed it through to the keeper.
How convenient it was the Cats.
Now they will close it !
Or the rule is , example in the case of Bowes if a club takes this on they have to pay the full salary that his previous club had him on.
$800 k
$ 1.6 mil for the 2 years not be allowed to spread it over 4 years with a slight increase over the four years.
If I was a player manager of Bowes or any player in the future with the club trying to offload my client because they stuffed up their TPP, bad luck.
The AFL should come down hard on a club in the future and stipulate it in the rules, inform clubs that if they breach their TPP they are barred from participating in the draft.
They lose all their draft picks in the draft the year they breached their TPP.
Fine them also the amount they were over.
But I’m sure with the AFL’s love children the GWS & GCS there will always be a loophole as they did this time.
Clubs should be held to account for not having their house in order and clubs who take up what the Cats shouldn’t be afforded the luxury of gaining pick 7 and then playing hardball when dealing for Henry and not allowing Ratugolea to find a home……
I think Grundy has 3 years of elite football left, after that he'll be overpaid but not superfluous, I think it's a fair trade-off.
Me and my son used to love watching Grundy at his best. He was a dominant player. Deadset gun.
That seems like a long time ago now though-maybe 2018?
2021 was a good year, this year not too bad but injury struck & Cameron & Cox presented as a cheap alternative. I reckon this one comes back to bite, Melbourne vs Collingwood has added interest, particularly around finals time.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'good'. He was a star for quite a while. Looking at his Brownlow votes there has been a fair drop-off since 2019. The graphs heading downwards. 2018- 17 votes=10th, 2019-23 votes=6th (same as Dusty), 2020-6 votes, 2021-9 votes, 2022-1 vote.
Agree, Grundy still has plenty of good footy in him. People over-react to present circumstances and underestimate long-term evidence.
