It just makes it all the more important to have a good culture at the club. Players dont walk from good clubs unless they are offered massive amounts, even then its no certainty.
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Free agency
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TOT70 said:
Whats to stop the nominated players that GC/GWS select walking out on them after a year or 2, once theyve played 8yrs of course. Not all their players will be 1st-2nd yr.
My main conern is the compensation formula determined by the AFL. :-\
AZZAMOOT said:
The 8 years have to be at the one club is my understanding.
Agree the compensation formula hasn't been determined and will be dodgy.
8 years at one club, means for most players in the future that they can walk at the age of 25. So a club can put all the hard development into a player, and that player can just walk when they're just hitting their peak age. I don't understand the need for free agency. Judd got where he wanted to go. Ball ended up where he wanted to go. The guys who have done thier time and are of any value get to where they want to go anyway. Free agency just means we're going to have playes moving around all over the place. Could the AFL be worried about legal ramifications in the future?
Let me say this....."I'm not for this sh!t at all"!.... but there's nothing i can do! so i say go after Luke Hodge in 2012 cause the guy grew up barracking for the Tiges, so tell me, who would'nt want too play for the team they barracked for as a kid?, he's done everything at Hawthorn so come on over Hodgey ;D.
On the other foot we could lose players the same way
... so wake up Richmond we have 3 years to get our sh!t together!
On the other foot we could lose players the same way
... so wake up Richmond we have 3 years to get our sh!t together!
TOT70 said:
Surely if say Franklin went to the GC after 8 years service with Hawthorn then he'd then become a free agent there too without the need to establish a further 8 years with GC.
Eg if he's not happy up there he can go to another club of choice soon after. The 8 year rule surely only applies to their original club.
If not it's an absolute farce.
GoodOne said:
Most players are finished by 30 these days unless they are exceptional. I don't think the 8 year number is unreasonable.
Its 10 years for free agency qualification for your top 10 players. Hence with the change in the drafting age to 18 that means top players will be 28 when eligible......Kane Johnson, Nathan Brown anyone?.........no thanks!
In fact it might actually help us to secure draft picks for some of our older players that historically we have kept for too long.
Also what this really means is that a lot more players will now be traded so the clubs can control the compensation which is what the AFL and AFLPA wanted all along.
I think it will be a good thing. Especially for clubs like ours with room to move in the salary cap.
In fact it might actually help us to secure draft picks for some of our older players that historically we have kept for too long.
Also what this really means is that a lot more players will now be traded so the clubs can control the compensation which is what the AFL and AFLPA wanted all along.
I think it will be a good thing. Especially for clubs like ours with room to move in the salary cap.
Great just great. Now it looks like I'm gonna see another Carlton (fixed up) flag in my lifetime.
YinnarTiger said:
That's not how I read it.
My interpretation is once said player has served 8 years at one club, they can become free agents from then on.
The reason being that even if they sign on again(say for two years) with the club they have served, that 8 year frame does not start again from scratch and they remain free agents.
I cannot see anywhere tha says that they have to again serve 8 years to become free agents again after that initial period is completed.
Disco08 said:
Yes they do as they have to agree to the trade.Bradshaw & Rischichelli (or however it's spelt) as a example
Once the players get their free agency how long until someone says they wanted to go to certain club but due to the salary cap they couldn't get there and the AFLPA targets the removal of the salary cap?
One would think they'd realise that would result in a grossly asymmetrical competition where poorer clubs are likely to fail. That won't help their members at all. A healthy game with many teams employing many members under fair(er) employment conditions does. The AFLPA isn't stupid nor unreasonable. That it's taken this long to institute FA is a tribute to their restraint and the goodwill it and its members have for the game.brigadiertiger said:
Personally, if the AFLPA wants free agency, then bring it in with strict controls.
But also bring it in with a minimum wage in line with Federal awards and no requirement for clubs to spend 95% of the total cap. The AFLPA cannot have it both ways
But also bring it in with a minimum wage in line with Federal awards and no requirement for clubs to spend 95% of the total cap. The AFLPA cannot have it both ways
No point in trading off these free agent players they will just walk and then the afl will come up with a fair choice of picks... Remember pick 26 for ablett. The players want it but as more of them become money hungy the worse things will get
