Footy to Return

[zippadeee]

Has anyone heard the premier league needs to start?
Or Serie A? Or the NBA or NFL??

Because they have money to cover a season without the game.
The supporters and clubs might not be happy but the health of the community and it's players comes first.
Not like the NRL and the AFL they are sooooo desperate to start to its a joke.
I heard they might shift the games to Lord Howe Island

 

[Ian4]

Has anyone heard the premier league needs to start?
Or Serie A? Or the NBA or NFL??

Because they have money to cover a season without the game.
The supporters and clubs might not be happy but the health of the community and it's players comes first.
Not like the NRL and the AFL they are sooooo desperate to start to its a joke.
I heard they might shift the games to Lord Howe Island

the difference is the clubs in these leagues are privately owned (even 4 of the 11 A-League clubs are still paying their players 100%). Moreover, the teams in these sports also own their own infrastructure. something the AFL and NRL don’t have the luxury of.

 

[Tass]

Without crowds interested in the game there is no TV audience. You can't really have one without the other as interest in the game is what drives the TV revenue.

They need to get the crowds back. I reckon the games without crowds have a fairly short life before people turn off and it would only work if they can play a few rounds without crowds knowing that the crowds will be let in after, say, 4 rounds. Even if we have to limit crowd numbers you need the crowd back.

You don't want to turn people off the game and I reckon a long period of games in empty stadia would do that after about 4 weeks.

DS

Spot on.

 

[zippadeee]

I don't think you are really comparing apples and apples there.

I'm comparing a league that has pissed money down the drain for years and none has had the balls to call them out.

 

[Number8]

Some would say there's no-one better qualified to pull off this manoeuvre...

 

[eZyT]

I wouldn't mind google box fans.

I reckon a huge percentage of Collingwood fans' 'lounge rooms' would be better than Pulp Fiction.

 

[DavidSSS]

Dont accept the suggestion that there will be no - or presumably you mean significantly reduced - TV audience numbers

In fact I can’t see why the TV numbers won’t be right back up towards normal high ratings. Certainly there’ll be thousands of members who usually watch live games who will now add to the TV audience. Now the actual numbers will obviously be affected by the frequency and scheduling of games but once it’s back on footy fans will watch however they can.

For instance can you really see yourself not watching one of our games on TV?

I understand what you are saying and the above post of mine is just an opinion. But I do worry that there will be a drop off in interest as the games just feel a lot less exciting without the crowd there. It all looks a bit contrived. With a shorter season and no crowd along with a question over whether it will be considered a tainted season (bearing in mind we don't see 1916 as tainted - look that one up!!) it is a worry.

I won't watch any of our games that are not on Free to Air, Murdoch never ever gets any of my money and never will. Unless they are on FTA the audience will be limited, I normally watch interstate games not on FTA at a pub, can't do that either.

I suppose my point is that they need to get some sort of crowd in after a period of no crowds if that is the way we have to go. I would be lobbying hard for a reduced capacity, socially distanced, crowd after a max of 4 rounds.

DS

 

[zippadeee]

Any financial analysis to back that up though?

Yes.
One went running to a bank for a 600 million dollar loan. ( one week into a new season)
While other sporting institutions are sitting back waiting for this past.

 

[Tigers of Old]

I was going ok without footy but after listening to the Tiger Talk podcast today and seeing the boys on the news has flipped me. I’m fanging for football.

This.

As for the crowds of course it makes a difference to the atmosphere. I've heard many players in the past few weeks say it's just nowhere near the same. To suggest otherwise you're having a lend.
That said I prefer some footy now than no footy. Mainly cause I *smile* miss footy.

 

[zippadeee]

The AFL are fillimg

 

[hutstar]

Yes.
One went running to a bank for a 600 million dollar loan. ( one week into a new season)
While other sporting institutions are sitting back waiting for this past.

Wow, just no idea. As usual.
MLB: looking at hubs to get the season going and with it TV revenue. Their season runs parallel to ours: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...as-as-possible-solution-to-start-2020-season/
NBA: Playing the remainder of their season later, then almost instantly starting the new season - TV revenues desperately needed: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/nba...e-verge-of-a-makeover-if-league-restarts.html
Soccer: They were most of the way through their European season, but still many leagues in trouble. Massive layoffs everywhere, even the big clubs. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/sports/soccer/coronavirus-fifa-soccer-emergency-fund.html Luckily the governing body has a bit of cash, but it's puny compared to the need and the size of their constiuency.
Premier League considering Hubs to finish the season 'world cup style' https://talksport.com/football/684444/premier-league-dates-fixtures-postponed-coronavirus-statement/ because, primarily, they will have to repay TV millions if they don't, and they don't have the money.

So in summary, everyone is in the same boat. They all need TV revenue, and everyone is considering hubs. Most of thse places have a far worse situation on their hands than Australia. The idea that clubs and leagues, even the big ones, have massive cash reserves sitting around doesn't make business sense. Your concept of reality - Leagues employing thousands of people who are currently laid off should just forget it and rely on billions of dollars just tucked under the mattress for a rainy day, because if it's not like the olden days it's not worth it, is just *smile* laughable and incredibly ignorant.

 

[Tigaman]

Hubs how much are they going to cost ?. Must be the most of expensive of all alternatives on the table to resume. Who is going to pay for it ?. AFL admin etc etc no way as they have a big fat loan to play with so who is left. The TV broadcasters, doubt it. The Clubs players nah. There is one lot who do not have a leg to stand on THE FOOTY PUBLIC who turn up week after week etc etc. Come 2021 & on , how much do you think you will have to put your in pocket to go to or watch Footy

 

[Tenacious]

Hubs how much are they going to cost ?. Must be the most of expensive of all alternatives on the table to resume. Who is going to pay for it ?. AFL admin etc etc no way as they have a big fat loan to play with so who is left. The TV broadcasters, doubt it. The Clubs players nah. There is one lot who do not have a leg to stand on THE FOOTY PUBLIC who turn up week after week etc etc. Come 2021 & on , how much do you think you will have to put your in pocket to go to or watch Footy

Having "legs to stand on" or "turning up week after week" will hardly be an issue this season - it's a matter only of "bums on the couch".
But so what? As far as I'm concerned it's better than nothing - and that's the alternative.

 

[zippadeee]

Having "legs to stand on" or "turning up week after week" will hardly be an issue this season - it's a matter only of "bums on the couch".
But so what? As far as I'm concerned it's better than nothing - and that's the alternative.

Richmond vs Collingwood 7.20 live from cairns
No crowd
Not watching.
No crowds no footy for me.
Flk it. Its bulkshiit..
Desperation of the highest order.
Till people can return then start the games.
Hubs my ass.

 

[zippadeee]

Wow, just no idea. As usual.
MLB: looking at hubs to get the season going and with it TV revenue. Their season runs parallel to ours: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/...as-as-possible-solution-to-start-2020-season/
NBA: Playing the remainder of their season later, then almost instantly starting the new season - TV revenues desperately needed: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/21/nba...e-verge-of-a-makeover-if-league-restarts.html
Soccer: They were most of the way through their European season, but still many leagues in trouble. Massive layoffs everywhere, even the big clubs. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/sports/soccer/coronavirus-fifa-soccer-emergency-fund.html Luckily the governing body has a bit of cash, but it's puny compared to the need and the size of their constiuency.
Premier League considering Hubs to finish the season 'world cup style' https://talksport.com/football/684444/premier-league-dates-fixtures-postponed-coronavirus-statement/ because, primarily, they will have to repay TV millions if they don't, and they don't have the money.

So in summary, everyone is in the same boat. They all need TV revenue, and everyone is considering hubs. Most of thse places have a far worse situation on their hands than Australia. The idea that clubs and leagues, even the big ones, have massive cash reserves sitting around doesn't make business sense. Your concept of reality - Leagues employing thousands of people who are currently laid off should just forget it and rely on billions of dollars just tucked under the mattress for a rainy day, because if it's not like the olden days it's not worth it, is just ******* laughable and incredibly ignorant.

The premier league isn't rushing to get back.
And where the flk are the Americans going to play there hubs in Guam ??
Over 1500 died overnight in the US.

 

[tigerman]

Having "legs to stand on" or "turning up week after week" will hardly be an issue this season - it's a matter only of "bums on the couch".
But so what? As far as I'm concerned it's better than nothing - and that's the alternative.

Agree

Some footy this season is a lot better than no footy at all for many reasons, whether it be financially or psychologically.

 

[jokershoppe]

I'm a 40 year tiger member and 7 and fox must fix the quiet no atmosphere background noise,they must put crowd noise and minimize empty stadium shots,as mega people didn't watch the Friday night game, false atmosphere is better than none at all,this will.keep more watching as we need everyone not only those who are ok to watch without atmosphere.

 

[jokershoppe]

Yes.
One went running to a bank for a 600 million dollar loan. ( one week into a new season)
While other sporting institutions are sitting back waiting for this past.

A loan the AFL could pay back today by selling a share in Etihad.

 

[zippadeee]

A loan the AFL could pay back today by selling a share in Etihad.

Just after selling their jocks

 

[CarnTheTiges]

I'm a 40 year tiger member and 7 and fox must fix the quiet no atmosphere background noise,they must put crowd noise and minimize empty stadium shots,as mega people didn't watch the Friday night game, false atmosphere is better than none at all,this will.keep more watching as we need everyone not only those who are ok to watch without atmosphere.

That’s why I don’t understand the reluctance to stage the games at grounds like Princes Park and Punt Rd. The lack of crowd and noise is less noticeable and no crowd means no concerns about capacity.