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Essendon = Entitlement

Sometimes I think people invest too much in the idea of the great coach walking in the door , waving a magic wand and everything turns to gold ,

We thought we had struck gold with Terry Wallace ,

then Dimma was the man to deliver
Yep.
Allan Jeans - Richmond.
Ron Barassi - Sydney.
Malcolm Blight - St Kilda.
Denis Pagan - Carlton.
Mick Malthouse - Carlton.

That's just off the top of my head but I'm sure there's plenty more.
 
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Yep.
Allan Jeans - Richmond.
Ron Barassi - Sydney.
Malcolm Blight - St Kilda.
Denis Pagan - Carlton.
Mick Malthouse - Carlton.

That's just off the top of my head but I'm sure there's plenty more.
Cant believe you left out the "GEISCH " BB :))

He had the messiah tag heaped on him too till he wasnt .... poor bastard another in the long line of Tiger Tragedies.

Carltons own Robert Walls at the RFC also.

Come to think of it the only real times its worked with a Premiership Coach taking another club to real success that I can think of is Lethal Leigh at the Skunks and Bears, and David Parkin returning to the Blues for the 95 Flag at the same club as opposed to another club.
 
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Yep.
Allan Jeans - Richmond.
Ron Barassi - Sydney.
Malcolm Blight - St Kilda.
Denis Pagan - Carlton.
Mick Malthouse - Carlton.

That's just off the top of my head but I'm sure there's plenty more.

With regards to Jeans, I think there was an ulterior motive in his hiring.

Club had to have a huge name to replace KB, the club knew it would lose too many supporters by boning him for a lesser light.

Jeans was an old and sick man by then, and he was never seen as the messiah. His stay was one of convenience.
 
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Just read the very first page of this thread, and would like to nominate @Number8 for a lifetime PRE achievement award.

Never before have I seen a poster who so eloquently, but with such brutal comprehensiveness, has embarked on a personal crusade to denigrate an opposition.

You can enjoy the humour of the 'Geelong Cants" thread, the mockery of the "#lolNorf" thread, and the almost mythical self-flagellalistic exploits covered in "The I ❤️Collingwood thread".

But none of it holds a candle to the exploits of @Number8 in this thread.

The quality of their vitriol in espousing hatred of all things Essendon throughout the thread, which might I add @Number8 started, is absolutely first class.

Do yourself a favour and read it from the start. It is a Tour de Force.

I dips me lid.
 
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Didn’t they say that wasn’t on not that long ago? :unsure:
They later clarified. Ambassadorship can't be offered as part of the initial coaching contract. But once that bits done they can offer a separate ambassadors agreement, same as all clubs apparently are permitted to do.
 
Cant believe you left out the "GEISCH " BB :))

He had the messiah tag heaped on him too till he wasnt .... poor bastard another in the long line of Tiger Tragedies.

Carltons own Robert Walls at the RFC also.

Come to think of it the only real times its worked with a Premiership Coach taking another club to real success that I can think of is Lethal Leigh at the Skunks and Bears, and David Parkin returning to the Blues for the 95 Flag at the same club as opposed to another club.
I've heard it argued Walls wasn't exactly a great coach, and that a blind monkey could've coached Carlton to the '87 flag after inheriting such a side.

Some of the stories of his coaching are brutal across the various clubs he led.

Being a hard-arse doesn't always equal a great coach, but I'm neither here nor there on whether Walls could be considered great.
 
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"For such a proud, proud club this is one of the saddest days that I've ever been involved in."

So said Matthew Lloyd on the telly last night.

It's a small statement that says so much. Nobody should take any pride in supporting, playing for or being involved in any part of that club. Every time Lloyd or some other misguided figurehead of that club says something like this, they perpetuate the problem. Continuing to blow wind up the arses of supporters with this kind of crap shows how little they have learned.

Essendon Football Club's recent history is shameful.

• A remarkable lack of finals wins
• The brutal sacking of Matthew Knights and the eye-watering payout that followed
• Illegal shortcuts to make it competitive followed by a pig-headed resistance to accepting justice as served
• An unedifying stoush with the bowls club that shared tenancy of Windy Hill
• Attempts to buy wins and culture through the purloining of Shiel, Stringer, Saad, Robson, Worsfold, Rutten, Caracella, Richardson and more
• And now, a host of players who are actively trying to get out

This club has NOTHING to be "proud" about.

Even Joe Daniher, part of a family that is royalty at Windy Hill, is on the move. And he's already tried to get out once before!

Here's the thing.

For some reason -- the old timers reckon it's got something to do with war bonds... go figure -- Essendon Football Club is home to an egregious sense of entitlement.

Perhaps the coteries play a role? At some point, the lenders need to see results.

Maybe it's Kevin Sheedy's big fat head that is to blame? He's certainly made self importance an art form.

Could it be the club's premiership count, tragically inflated though it is by flags in seasons that were hopelessly compromised on today's scale?

Until Essendon works out it is a nothing club and nobody owes it anything, it will continue to blunder its way to irrelevance.

The fact is they're no more important, interesting or indispensable than North Melbourne.

And despite how that sounds, it would actually do them a lot of good to recognise that fact.
Bump!
 
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With regards to Jeans, I think there was an ulterior motive in his hiring.

Club had to have a huge name to replace KB, the club knew it would lose too many supporters by boning him for a lesser light.

Jeans was an old and sick man by then, and he was never seen as the messiah. His stay was one of convenience.
Jeans wanted to top up the Super.
 
Finishing 8th means beating the Cats in the GF, rather than knocking them out in the prelim. which is better?

(Tho the cats might choke week 1- finishing 8th means we knock them out week 2- that is perfect.)
Prefer meeting the cats in a preliminary final and then sydney in the GF, all finals on our deck, well not there’s anyway.
 
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Cant believe you left out the "GEISCH " BB :))

He had the messiah tag heaped on him too till he wasnt .... poor bastard another in the long line of Tiger Tragedies.

Carltons own Robert Walls at the RFC also.

Come to think of it the only real times its worked with a Premiership Coach taking another club to real success that I can think of is Lethal Leigh at the Skunks and Bears, and David Parkin returning to the Blues for the 95 Flag at the same club as opposed to another club.
Our own Tommy Hafey was a bee’s appendage away from being a premiership coach at Collingwood but the other one was Ron Barassi who coached two premierships at Carlton and then two at North.
Of course he then went back to Melbourne as coach and was unsuccessful
Both of those a long time ago
 
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Robbo calls it the supplement saga.
Caro calls it the drug scandal.

Robbo epitomises their problem and he completely lacks the self awareness to know it.

If Essendon owned it they would tell Robbo to call it what it is.
 
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I've heard it argued Walls wasn't exactly a great coach, and that a blind monkey could've coached Carlton to the '87 flag after inheriting such a side.

Some of the stories of his coaching are brutal across the various clubs he led.

Being a hard-arse doesn't always equal a great coach, but I'm neither here nor there on whether Walls could be considered great.
Walls was no Parkin.
 
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Our own Tommy Hafey was a bee’s appendage away from being a premiership coach at Collingwood but the other one was Ron Barassi who coached two premierships at Carlton and then two at North.
Of course he then went back to Melbourne as coach and was unsuccessful
Both of those a long time ago
And they both failed at the Swans, even though Hafey had that run with the Capper era.

Yep Tommy killed em all at the RFC and couldn't get the Pies Cats or Swans over the line.
 
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At the start of the year I thought (feared?) Essendon may have turned the corner. All the talk of knowing they are a way off being contenders and that in this era of drafting, salary caps and the like it takes years to build a team that can contend for the ultimate prize. The noises coming from wherever they hang out now (at the airport from what I read) spoke of a maturity, an understanding of where they really sit in the scheme of things and some semblance of reality when it came to assessing their list and its clear shortcomings.

Aah well, can't say I'm upset. Essendon are back to their usual expectation of wanting to contend next year, or is it next week? Until they learn that it takes a long time to turn around the Titanic they are hopefully going to continue to wallow in their own mediocrity.

DS
 
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