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Dustin Martin

My son gets RFC instagram feed and he showed me a clip titled something like 'you can argue with Dusty in bubble soccer'

I am techno-spaso, so i cant post a link or anything, but check it out.

Its hilarious, but also a little worrying.

he could have been out till round 11 with whiplash the way he gets lined up (whose in the bubble that does the arguing??) and his bubble goes flying.
 
The club should only pay what they think he is worth. If he wants more, then let him go. Close one door, you open another. Put the money into player recruitment and development to improve the depth of the club, and this problem will disappear. Players that think they can hold the club to ransom don't belong at the RFC. Not that I'm saying that about Dusty. It applies to all.
 
easy said:
My son gets RFC instagram feed and he showed me a clip titled something like 'you can argue with Dusty in bubble soccer'

I am techno-spaso, so i cant post a link or anything, but check it out.

Its hilarious, but also a little worrying.

he could have been out till round 11 with whiplash the way he gets lined up (whose in the bubble that does the arguing??) and his bubble goes flying.

https://www.instagram.com/richmond_fc/
 
1eyedtiger said:
The club should only pay what they think he is worth. If he wants more, then let him go. Close one door, you open another. Put the money into player recruitment and development to improve the depth of the club, and this problem will disappear. Players that think they can hold the club to ransom don't belong at the RFC. Not that I'm saying that about Dusty. It applies to all.

Its simple if Dusty goes the RFC bleeds the recipient.
 
1eyedtiger said:
The club should only pay what they think he is worth. If he wants more, then let him go. Close one door, you open another. Put the money into player recruitment and development to improve the depth of the club, and this problem will disappear. Players that think they can hold the club to ransom don't belong at the RFC. Not that I'm saying that about Dusty. It applies to all.
That should ensure plenty of bottom 4 finishes
 
jb03 said:
That should ensure plenty of bottom 4 finishes

Really? As far as I'm aware aside from certain unmentioned exceptions, all clubs are bound to pay players a minimum wage and have a maximum salary cap applied. How much do we pay our bunch of hacks compared to let's say, Western Bulldogs? All I see is that we pay our players much the same as any other club but since 1980, have little to show for it. Our players have little to fear from being dumped because you're all afraid of bottom 4 finishes. Well, what's one, or even several more after the last few decades? Nothing as far as I'm concerned. I'll probably die before our next premiership and I'm over sucking up to spoiled *smile* players in the meantime. If Dusty wants out, then *smile* him off. We'll be better in the long run without him. Try growing a spine, people. No wonder we're in the *smile*. 'Oh no, we can't upset the Dusty cart!, we'd better bow down on our knees and pray to the Dusty god for kindness'. Do any of you have any idea how pathetic you all are? Seriously? It's enough to make me sick :vomit
 
1eyedtiger said:
Really? As far as I'm aware aside from certain unmentioned exceptions, all clubs are bound to pay players a minimum wage and have a maximum salary cap applied. How much do we pay our bunch of hacks compared to let's say, Western Bulldogs? All I see is that we pay our players much the same as any other club but since 1980, have little to show for it. Our players have little to fear from being dumped because you're all afraid of bottom 4 finishes. Well, what's one, or even several more after the last few decades? Nothing as far as I'm concerned. I'll probably die before our next premiership and I'm over sucking up to spoiled *smile* players in the meantime. If Dusty wants out, then p!ss him off. We'll be better in the long run without him. Try growing a spine, people. No wonder we're in the sh!t. 'Oh no, we can't upset the Dusty cart!, we'd better bow down on our knees and pray to the Dusty god for kindness'. Do any of you have any idea how pathetic you all are? Seriously? It's enough to make me sick :vomit

Hmmmmmm!

tom boyd says hi!


Oh, and merry christmas from us all!
 
1eyedtiger said:
Really? As far as I'm aware aside from certain unmentioned exceptions, all clubs are bound to pay players a minimum wage and have a maximum salary cap applied. How much do we pay our bunch of hacks compared to let's say, Western Bulldogs? All I see is that we pay our players much the same as any other club but since 1980, have little to show for it. Our players have little to fear from being dumped because you're all afraid of bottom 4 finishes. Well, what's one, or even several more after the last few decades? Nothing as far as I'm concerned. I'll probably die before our next premiership and I'm over sucking up to spoiled *smile* players in the meantime. If Dusty wants out, then p!ss him off. We'll be better in the long run without him. Try growing a spine, people. No wonder we're in the sh!t. 'Oh no, we can't upset the Dusty cart!, we'd better bow down on our knees and pray to the Dusty god for kindness'. Do any of you have any idea how pathetic you all are? Seriously? It's enough to make me sick :vomit
Where is the evidence that Dusty is doing this?
 
Didn't say he was. I'm responding to others who say he is. And how did it go last time we negotiated his contract? And I'm applying this to all players. I don't care who they are.
 
We can take off $2 million of the salary cap with getting rid of players that are not integral to the club

Batchelor
Morris
Maric
Lennon
Edwards
Hampson
Townsend
Hunt
Broad
Elton

I would rather give Dusty $850k a year than keep a Hunt/Morris/Lennon on the list

But we should have the Yarran money to help cover Dusty's salary - Yarran finishing up could be the thing that ends up keeping Dusty at the club.

Dusty will stay at Richmond,He will take $850k at Richmond over $1 million at another club
 
1eyedtiger said:
Didn't say he was. I'm responding to others who say he is. And how did it go last time we negotiated his contract? And I'm applying this to all players. I don't care who they are.
Went pretty smoothly from memory with little fanfare.
 
turk-d-tiger said:
We can take off $2 million of the salary cap with getting rid of players that are not integral to the club

Batchelor
Morris
Maric
Lennon
Edwards
Hampson
Townsend
Hunt
Broad
Elton
The scary thing about this group, turk-d is that some deluded punters keep insisting we've got a top four n premiership quality list. Of this group, there's only Lennon n Broad that haven't been around more than four years. Hamster is our first ruck, Shedda is talented but erratic n Hunt is a back up fill in player, the rest are pretty meh but mature senior players.
Out of a list of forty players that's 25%, chuck in a handful of brand new youngsters n rookies that are not yet near up to scratch and we'd be looking at a third of our list or more that are pretty bloody ordinary at the moment. Clubs use at least thirty players most years if they're having a good year injury wise, we're just so exposed as soon as we have a few injury niggles it's not funny.

Wouldn't be hard to make up close 2 mill worth of salary cap space with a bit of an extra clean out, problem is we could bring in kids n still have to meet the cap requirements or pay overs to entice quality from other clubs.
Big pay rise coming in for the players soon, we're gunna get screwed over giving pay raises to mediocre fringe players.
 
The thing is with players like these i would just give them $100k-$120k and thats all not a dime more

If they dont like it - BYE !!!

They wont get a go at another club and would leave mor money for the Martin,Cotchin,Rance types

15 players on 100k-120k
10 juniors at start salary
10 at 120k-150k

Top 10 players to get the dollars
 
turk-d-tiger said:
The thing is with players like these i would just give them $100k-$120k and thats all not a dime more

If they dont like it - BYE !!!

They wont get a go at another club and would leave mor money for the Martin,Cotchin,Rance types

15 players on 100k-120k
10 juniors at start salary
10 at 120k-150k

Top 10 players to get the dollars
Problem is ya need way way more than ten players and a tribe of nuffers to get above the arse end of the ladder turk-d. Clubs use thirty and more players each and every year, the really good clubs can manage with injuries to their best players because their extra players are fairly decent. There's a heap of our players outside our best dozen that are fairly bloody ordinary and we get found out every single time we have a few injury or form issues.
 
Says something about both the recruiters who pick up these guys and the coaching staff that support these decisions and regularly gift them games.
 
Rancey18 said:
Says something about both the recruiters who pick up these guys and the coaching staff that support these decisions and regularly gift them games.
When there's injury or form issues the coaching staff can do no more than play the best of a poor lot n hope they can contribute. Core of the problem stems from the recruiting and there's generally a three to five year lag between recruiting and delisting, or being a regular reliable player. A couple of years of ordinary recruiting or misses in a specific area can seriously haunt the list five years later.

Vickery,, reasonable return.
Griffiths,, still hoping to get a decent return.
Astbury,, still hoping to get a decent return.
Elton,, phhhhht done our dough.
McBean,, done our dough.
McKenzie,, done our dough.

Six players and it's only a tiny but clearly focused snapshot of how poor returns from the recruiting dept can hamstring an era.