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I wouldn’t imagine a highly skilled game. The weather conditions will bring the teams closer to each other and I reckon the team who fumbles the least will win.
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Dreamtime 2020 Game Day
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I wouldn’t imagine a highly skilled game. The weather conditions will bring the teams closer to each other and I reckon the team who fumbles the least will win.
Which team will fumble less.....
a. A team that hasn't won a final in the last 15 years
B. A team that has won two of the last three flags
Tigers have more to play for I reckon - top 4 spot with some tough games to come.
The bummers run of games is horrendous so they are really no chance to make the 8.
Expecting a similar game to Monday’s - close through-out then we do enough when it matters.
Re fumbling - we are an excellent wet weather team so I would have thought the conditions would suit us better and generally the better skilled team stand out in poor condition so I don’t buy the thought that these conditions will bring sides closer together.
Actually the bummers are shot so it will be a major upset if they even make it close, let alone get the points.
The bummers run of games is horrendous so they are really no chance to make the 8.
Expecting a similar game to Monday’s - close through-out then we do enough when it matters.
Re fumbling - we are an excellent wet weather team so I would have thought the conditions would suit us better and generally the better skilled team stand out in poor condition so I don’t buy the thought that these conditions will bring sides closer together.
Actually the bummers are shot so it will be a major upset if they even make it close, let alone get the points.
This Flag thing is outrageous.
Got no problem with the artist getting paid, but i have a problem with these two white *smile* who bought it.
clothingthegap.com.au
Drop them an email
[email protected]
And tell them what you think about them controlling the use of black australias unifying symbol.
Got no problem with the artist getting paid, but i have a problem with these two white *smile* who bought it.
Flag Rights Journey
Clothing the Gaps is an Aboriginal social enterprise and fashion label that is based on Wurundjeri Country in Brunswick. We never realised the conversation and debate that we would create, once we placed our Aboriginal flag on our tee! Did you know the Aboriginal flag was copyrighted? Well it...
Drop them an email
[email protected]
And tell them what you think about them controlling the use of black australias unifying symbol.
This Flag thing is outrageous.
Got no problem with the artist getting paid, but i have a problem with these two white *smile* who bought it.
Flag Rights Journey
Clothing the Gaps is an Aboriginal social enterprise and fashion label that is based on Wurundjeri Country in Brunswick. We never realised the conversation and debate that we would create, once we placed our Aboriginal flag on our tee! Did you know the Aboriginal flag was copyrighted? Well it...
Drop them an email
[email protected]
And tell them what you think about them controlling the use of black australias unifying symbol.
The WHITE couple who own the rights to the Aboriginal Flag
Ben Wooster and Semele Moore smiled broadly as they stood next to Aboriginal Flag designer Harold Thomas just moments after their company WAM Clothing was given the copyright.
They seem like a dodgy pair. But doesn't the original artist Harold Thomas ultimately control the rights?
"Mr Thomas designed the famous flag in 1971 and in 1997 won a High Court battle to become the sole copyright owner, before passing the copyright licenses for different products on to other companies "
I think it depends how much he's made and also whether he supports the cause that now unites behind the flag.
I do agree to an extent with you and thats why in a later post I suggested that the government should purchase the flag from the owner. That way he can provide the flag to a centralised holder of the flag who can then use the flag to continue to close the gap (this could help with perceptions that the government does not want to do this), yet he can still profit from the design of the flag.
I am all in favour of the indigenous round and have watched some of them at the G in years past. Been moved and enjoyed the spectacle and the thoughts behind it all.
Here is a thought for the day.
How about the AFL also introduce a special ethnic or immigration game in the future.
So many of our players have ethnic backgrounds and some have come from war torn countries or poor countries.
Most players today would have some form of immigration in their past.
Just think. There are players from such places as Bosnia, Africa, Tonga, Middle East and countries from all over the world.
Should they also not be recognized for their services to the game and how they have integrated into Australian society?
Here is a thought for the day.
How about the AFL also introduce a special ethnic or immigration game in the future.
So many of our players have ethnic backgrounds and some have come from war torn countries or poor countries.
Most players today would have some form of immigration in their past.
Just think. There are players from such places as Bosnia, Africa, Tonga, Middle East and countries from all over the world.
Should they also not be recognized for their services to the game and how they have integrated into Australian society?
The WHITE couple who own the rights to the Aboriginal Flag
Ben Wooster and Semele Moore smiled broadly as they stood next to Aboriginal Flag designer Harold Thomas just moments after their company WAM Clothing was given the copyright.www.dailymail.co.uk
They seem like a dodgy pair. But doesn't the original artist Harold Thomas ultimately control the rights?
"Mr Thomas designed the famous flag in 1971 and in 1997 won a High Court battle to become the sole copyright owner, before passing the copyright licenses for different products on to other companies "
*smile* copyright.
Certain symbols belong to the original intentions.
The art can be bought and sold, but not the symbol.
Eureka flag 'belongs'to the union movement just as the aboriginal flag belongs to the aboriginal struggle.
*smile* these horrible *smile*.
You do realise its an aborigine that owns the copyright and HE provides exclusive agreements. I've noted above you insinuated this was a race issue which it clearly isn't.
I know the artist was black and sold copyright to white people.
It waa remiss of me to insinuate this is a race issue. My intention was to scream it.
Are you being serious?
He has not sold copyright. He OWNS the copyright.
He signed exclusivity agreements with firms to produce merchandise using the flag and he will gain royalties out of it.
Surely the blame for this is the signing of the exclusivity agreement and not the companies that then use said exclusivity agreement. '
Yes I'm serious.
A common ruse by assholes that exclusivity agreement. With the rise of the fabric printing industry up here they are becoming more common. I don’t know or want to make assumptions about this particular artist but if you don’t understand the implications and don’t get legal advice on signing one and/or have bad literary and numeracy and/or are struggling financially they may look enticing. Or MAYBE the artist has cracked it at having to live as a second class citizen in his own country and decided to play hard ball with the world.
Thats true, exclusivity is awkward, but we shouldn't get into a position where we just assume that he was abused by the nasty white people who are taking advantage of him.
We don't know why he signed the agreements, but he did and he is profiting from them. We cannot claim that this is a race issue because a white man profits from it, when the original artist who is an aborigine is also profiting from the same agreements.
As I have said previously, if he wants to monitise the flag, thats fine, but it would be more preferable that he sold it to the government than profiting from it commercially.
I don’t agree with you poshman. I have worked with aboriginal artist (via their own community owned art centres) for about 20 years and it is extremely common for artists to be misled into situations like this. But yes there is a chance it was a deliberate decision. What we don’t and can’t know is if it is profitable for him. These kind of contracts are often skewed to the benefit of the company.
*** even national institutions are now trying to get artists to sign docs that waive their right to royalties from use of their intellectual property
****** don’t get me started or I’ll write a 3 page rant!!
I was asking if you seriously think
'Its clearly not a race issue'
If a high end high rise gets built in the block, redfern, its a race issue.
Planning issue? Social justice issue? Aesthetic issue? Historic issue? Class issue?
Yes.
But if you reckon an issue about The Aboriginal Flag clearly isnt about race, but solely copyright/exclusives, then we are wasting our time conversing.
Why are people so scared of race?
Dreamtime at the G is a race issue
