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Curtains for Richo?

Tigers of Old said:

What about young players with serious injury to there ability, talent and skill base like the Whites, Polos, McGoofs and Jons.

Then the answer needs to be and must be YES :D

No more duds, young or old if they aint up to it they go.

No more extensions ala Polo and Jon and King and Schulz ffs these 4 shouldave already all been gone.
 
I still think he'll play on next year
We can't afford to cut all the 30+ year olds in one go in addition to the 25+ year olds we plan to trade/delist
 
Of course he should go around again if his fitness warrants... FFS he is in our top 6 players!
 
Tigre garçon said:
Of course he should go around again if his fitness warrants... FFS he is in our top 6 players!


& this is my basic argument. Those wanting to discriminate simply because he's old are completely ignoring the woefully deplorable state of our list.
 
meltiger said:
& this is my basic argument. Those wanting to discriminate simply because he's old are completely ignoring the woefully deplorable state of our list.

Nil argument from me Meltiger... makes perfect sense!
 
meltiger said:
So then. You want to retire him because he's old. A one off injury has nothing to do with it.

No.

Tigre garçon said:
Of course he should go around again if his fitness warrants... FFS he is in our top 6 players!

See James Hird.

He won the B&F the year he retired. Classy and smart until the end.

I also want Richo to be remembered for the champ he is. Pointless going around next year for a dozen games.

Father time is knocking.
 
meltiger said:
Yes.

25 and a one off serious injury = keep
34-35 and a one off serous injury = gone

Spot the difference.

Exhibit A your honor

If you can't correlate his tendonitis injuries with age, I can't help you mel.
We disagree. That's fine.
 
Tigers of Old said:
We disagree. That's fine.

Yes, because you are making out as if he's chronically injured to hide the fact you're basing your judgement solely on his age ... He's not.


Prior to a one off injury this year, he'd surely have had the best run of games over a 5 year period he's ever had.
 
Not fussed either way. In our best 22 but won't be when we are (hopefully) able to challenge.

RFC today remind me of StKilda of the Eighties. Idolising individuals rather than the team.


meltiger said:
Yes.

25 and a one off serious injury = keep
34-35 and a one off serous injury = gone

Spot the difference.
yep, call me ageist. Serious injury at 34-35 should mean gone.
 
mld said:
It remains to be seen if the 'infamous hard line and ruthlessness' attributed to Hardwick by the internet will live up to people's expectations.

Yes remember Wallets infamous quote (and I know he had many) about growing our own champions. And then when it came to list management he proved exactly the opposite. Hope to God history doesn't repeat itself.
 
yellow_and_black said:
If Harddick gets rid of Richo then I will ring the club to save them a stamp later this year.

What if they both sit down and discuss the pros and cons like rational people and agree he shouldnt continue?

Richo may decide himself that it is in the best interests of the club that he retires.
 
Id just like to say I am all for Richo playing on, not necessarily because he is one of our best players but because he has been such a true Tiger through thick and thin and deserves to have another go if thats his wish.

However, if we had 6 34 yo Richo's, would we keep them all or would we consider whether keeping them would benefit the club more than giving the opportunity for 6 new talented kids? I know I am using an over-the-top example but the same concept applies when as a club making a decision.

I am concerned when it comes to injuries with Richo. He aint getting younger and soft tissue injuries do become more prevalent and do take longer to heal at his age, not to mention the extra pace of the game over the last couple of years and the way he often extends himself. It is highly conceivable that Richo could sustain similar soft tissue injuries next year and take up another spot.
 
jb03 said:
yep, call me ageist. Serious injury at 34-35 should mean gone.

I'm usually an ageist too. Old people (Anyone over 40) have way to much attitude for people on the downhill ski for mine ... BUT ... No one has any idea how Matty will come back next season if allowed.


Simple fact is, at least half the list deserve to be delisted on their footballing ABILITY .... Getting rid of one of our best players simply because he's old ... It's madness.


Anyone remember how *smile* sh!t Fitzroy were fielding a team of talented, yet largely under 25 players across their final two seasons? Welcome to our future if we retire players solely based on age.
 
meltiger said:
Yes, because you are making out as if he's chronically injured to hide the fact you're basing your judgement solely on his age ... He's not.


Prior to a one off injury this year, he'd surely have had the best run of games over a 5 year period he's ever had.

Signs are bad though when he had 3 months recovery and failed to last 10 minutes going half pace is a 2nds match.... this all while he had been given the all clear, 'fully recovered' and done all the necessary training.
 
his wage will be on theveterans list so wont affect the salary cap. we'll also be cutting Brown and others as well, so salary cap wont be an issue..

12mths ago almost won the brownlow

would be surprised and dissapointed if he doesnt go round again...Far more to offer playing than not. Its not as if he was not contributing week to week. Ie like Lucas or even Lloyd.
 
Tigers of Old said:
If you can't correlate his tendonitis injuries with age, I can't help you mel.
We disagree. That's fine.


& as not Richo's doctor.... You are doing nothing but speculating.

Richo would have been fine had he been given a rest rather than sent to Sydney to save Wallace's job.