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Saw a couple of things comparing the so-called Big 4 of Smith, Root, Kohli and Williamson and their number of 100s in wins and other stats.

I've always had Root and Williamson below Smith and Kohli.

Williamson averages 55 in Tests, but just 35 against Australia, 36 against England and 37 against India. He averages 82 against Bangladesh, 78 against Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka, 66 v Pakistan, 62 versus South Africa and 60 v West Indies.

Root averages 49 in Tests. 40 v Australia but 57 (although falling this series) against India. He's played two Tests each against Bangladesh and Ireland, averaging 24 and 29 respectively. Against everyone else he averages 46 or more. Pretty solid.

Smith averages 57. Sure, he averages 124 against the Windies, but also 65 v India and 56 v England, Apart from an average of 29 in two Test v Bangladesh (Williamson has played 8, for 4 100s), his lowest average against any country is just under 45 v South Africa. He's made 21 of his 32 100s against England (12) or India (9). Root has made 14 of his 31 against India (10) or Australia (4), with 5 each against NZ and WI. Of Williamson's 31, 10 have come against England (4), India (4) and Australia (2).

And Kohli. Averages 49, with 29 100s. Averages 47 against Australia (8 100s) and 42 v England (5 100s). His best average is 67 against Sri Lanka, while other than England his lowest is 45 v NZ.
 
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Marnus showing he's a much better batsman when he is positive, and tries to score.
Nathan Lyon having some fun again.
 
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Marnus out for 90 from a brilliant catch by Phillips. Spewing he missed out on a ton but nice to see back in some form.

straya lead by 59 with only Starc and Cummins at the crease and Hazelwood to come. Be nice if they could get the lead to 100 but doubt it.
 
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Sensational catch to end a tremendous knock. Marnus looked to have gone back to an old favourite bat, maybe a net bat. Chockas with cherries and held together with tape. Superstitious maybe but it worked, batted beautifully.

It's game on.
 
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spook said:
Saw a couple of things comparing the so-called Big 4 of Smith, Root, Kohli and Williamson and their number of 100s in wins and other stats.

I've always had Root and Williamson below Smith and Kohli.

Williamson averages 55 in Tests, but just 35 against Australia, 36 against England and 37 against India. He averages 82 against Bangladesh, 78 against Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka, 66 v Pakistan, 62 versus South Africa and 60 v West Indies.

Root averages 49 in Tests. 40 v Australia but 57 (although falling this series) against India. He's played two Tests each against Bangladesh and Ireland, averaging 24 and 29 respectively. Against everyone else he averages 46 or more. Pretty solid.

Smith averages 57. Sure, he averages 124 against the Windies, but also 65 v India and 56 v England, Apart from an average of 29 in two Test v Bangladesh (Williamson has played 8, for 4 100s), his lowest average against any country is just under 45 v South Africa. He's made 21 of his 32 100s against England (12) or India (9). Root has made 14 of his 31 against India (10) or Australia (4), with 5 each against NZ and WI. Of Williamson's 31, 10 have come against England (4), India (4) and Australia (2).

And Kohli. Averages 49, with 29 100s. Averages 47 against Australia (8 100s) and 42 v England (5 100s). His best average is 67 against Sri Lanka, while other than England his lowest is 45 v NZ.
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Great numbers

The other thing that needs to be taken into account is where they scored their runs. Williamson plays a lot in NZ on seaming wickets and we can see from this series that it is probably easier to have a higher average batting a lot in Australia than in NZ.

That being said Williamson is not always facing the Australian pace attack when he plays at home.
 
Sintiger said:
Great numbers

The other thing that needs to be taken into account is where they scored their runs. Williamson plays a lot in NZ on seaming wickets and we can see from this series that it is probably easier to have a higher average batting a lot in Australia than in NZ.

That being said Williamson is not always facing the Australian pace attack when he plays at home.
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NZ pitches are also slower and bounce less than Aussie pitches. Williamson averages 66 at home. 42 in Aus, 30 in England, 33 in India, 21 in South Africa, 26 in Sri Lanka.

Compare Smith: 62 in Aus, 55 in England, 50 in India, 60 in NZ, 41 in South Africa, 49 in Sri Lanka.

Wiilimson also plays a lot more against the weaker countries than the others.

Tests v Bangladesh: Williamson 8, Smith 2, Root 2, Kohli 6.
v Zimbabwe: Williamson 4, Smith 0, Root 0, Kohli 0
 
spook said:
NZ pitches are also slower and bounce less than Aussie pitches. Williamson averages 66 at home. 42 in Aus, 30 in England, 33 in India, 21 in South Africa, 26 in Sri Lanka.

Compare Smith: 62 in Aus, 55 in England, 50 in India, 60 in NZ, 41 in South Africa, 49 in Sri Lanka.

Wiilimson also plays a lot more against the weaker countries than the others.

Tests v Bangladesh: Williamson 8, Smith 2, Root 2, Kohli 6.
v Zimbabwe: Williamson 4, Smith 0, Root 0, Kohli 0
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Ok.

Right now he is a better player than Smith, but many are.
 
Smith LBW. Looked pretty plumb again. Again reviews. Again fired and a lost review. You can see how uncomfortable it makles the non-striker. They never advise him not to review. Selfish.

Really wish someone else had been given the opportunity to open in this series.

What do the selectors do from here? No test until India arrive for the 5 test summer series. Assume Smith will be left as opener.
 
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MD Jazz said:
Really wish someone else had been given the opportunity to open in this series.

What do the selectors do from here? No test until India arrive for the 5 test summer series. Assume Smith will be left as opener.
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Test team boys club ... very hard to get into
only change when they REALLY have to
 
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Nothing surer after NZ made batting look easy was Australia to come out and struggle. I'd like to think this test will highlight Australia's fragile batting and commence rectifying it but I'm sure we'll go into the next test (whenever it is) with the same top 7.
 
Older champion , reflexes slowing , let’s move him up the order to open . Even our best batsman in the last decade can’t be expected to make that “ Hail Mary “ work
Woeful idea
 
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Mr Brightside said:
Older champion , reflexes slowing , let’s move him up the order to open . Even our best batsman in the last decade can’t be expected to make that “ Hail Mary “ work
Woeful idea
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It was by his request, tail wagging dog imo. He definitely should not be opening bat(ter). Selectors should have said "no go" to this p poor idea.
 
Watching the Australian’s try so many different bowling options in the Kiwi second dig, I figured I might be a chance of getting thrown the ball!

When was the last time 8 bowlers were used in an innings, especially by us?

And what is even more amazing to me is that Steve Smith wasn’t one of them!
 
tigertim said:
Nothing surer after NZ made batting look easy was Australia to come out and struggle. I'd like to think this test will highlight Australia's fragile batting and commence rectifying it but I'm sure we'll go into the next test (whenever it is) with the same top 7.
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The problem is there is no batting depth coming through. Our test batting is looking very shaky for the foreseeable future.
 
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The problem is there is no batting depth coming through. Our test batting is looking very shaky for the foreseeable future.
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Nic Maddison had been in good form (3 tons from his last 5 shield innings) but I know he won’t be given a go.
 
Streak said:
Watching the Australian’s try so many different bowling options in the Kiwi second dig, I figured I might be a chance of getting thrown the ball!

When was the last time 8 bowlers were used in an innings, especially by us?

And what is even more amazing to me is that Steve Smith wasn’t one of them!
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You'd be surprised how relatively often it happens.
The last team to do it was ... Australia, in the first innings in the recent Brisbane Test against West Indies.
In fact four of the most recent nine instances were by Australia.
 
Can’t see the Aussies winning this. Usually a wicket falls pretty early on the next day after an overnight partnership. That would leave us 5 fa and the terribly underperforming Carey at the crease. Strangely when our top order fails the lower order tends to show more resolve so maybe a couple of good scores from them but probably not enough.
 
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