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He's looked vulnerable in the last year. He never previously looked vulnerable. Maybe he can turn it around but history is against him. Past champs like Ponting/Gilly/Tendulkar all dropped off markedly late in their careers. Their career averages took a real relative smashing.

Just on this. Smiths average will no doubt go down until he retires. That is normal as he goes past the peak of his powers.

He is still miles better than anyone we can bring in though so can (and should) continue to play.

In addition to the three you mentioned The same thing happened and for the same reasons to Border, Hayden and Clarke and is now also happening to Kohli.

It's no negative unless retiring early to protect personal averages come ahead of team performance
 
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The Aussie girls have done well in the 3rd ODI against India, 7/338 off their 50 overs.
Litchfield scored a brilliant 119. My girl Alana King did well down the order, 26 off 14, she has scored 54 off 31 balls in her last 2 knocks.
And then when bowling Alana produces a ball that Warney would've been proud of/


‘The pinnacle of leg-spin’: King emulates Warne’s Gatting ball.​


As a young leg-spinner, Alana King was inspired by footage of Shane Warne’s ball of the century to Mike Gatting at Old Trafford in 1993.

On Tuesday in India, as Australia sealed a 3-0 sweep of the ODI series in Mumbai, King just about replicated it with one of the most delectable leg-breaks you will ever see.

Alana King’s dream ball.


The Australians were well on the way to a big win when King sized up the Indian all-rounder Pooja Vastrakar, and there was plenty of turn in the pitch – just as there had been in Manchester 30 years ago.
But it was still the stuff of dreams to conjure a delivery with the right length, curve and bite to beat the striker’s forward prod and flick the outside of the off stump, much to skipper Alyssa Healy’s delight as she pointed straight at an exultant King. It had been Healy’s uncle, Ian, standing up to the stumps to Warne three decades ago.

“When you watch that delivery, and obviously being a leg-spinner, you see how many revolutions Warnie put on the ball, the drift he got – it just makes it so much more special,” King told ESPNcricinfo last year.
“That’s the dream of a leggie. You’ve put that many revs on the ball, got that nice drift, pitched outside leg stump and hit the top of off stump. That was incredible. Every leg-spinner dreams of that and it was just as perfect, perfect a leg-break as has ever been bowled.

don’t think anyone comes close to bowling something like that. He was a once-in-a-generation player for that reason, the amount of spin that he got. That was early on in his Test career too, so what he went on to do – over 700 Test wickets – it all started with that ball. Think that delivery will always be the pinnacle of leg-spin.”
King has said that the secret to bowling the perfect leg-break is to ensure as smooth a rhythm as possible through the crease, as shoulder, wrist and fingers work in unison to generate as many revolutions as possible.


“It’s all about rhythm,” she said. “You want to be as smooth as possible in every delivery. When you release the ball, you know it’s got so many revs on it and everything is smooth.
“When I release a good leg-break, I’m like, I’m in with a chance here. Natural variation can happen, but I know when I’m bowling at my best, everything is smooth, it’s not forced.”

In 1993, Warne had tried to focus on similar thoughts before he twirled down his “ball from hell” to flummox Gatting.
“I was a bit nervous, actually,” he said in 2013. “My thought process was, ‘Just try and get your rhythm first, try and spin a couple of big leg-breaks first, to get inside their head that the wicket is turning’.

“As soon as it released out of my hand, it felt really good. I didn’t realise, I don’t think, until we looked up at the screen ... I remember us all standing in the middle saying, ‘That was a pretty good ball’. Then I looked up and I went, ‘Geez’. And I was feeling pretty good after that because it was a pretty good cherry.”
Phoebe Litchfield’s career-best hundred spurred Australia to a 190-run belting of India.

Litchfield (119) and captain Alyssa Healy (82) led Australia to 7-338 – their highest total against India – before the home side crumbled for 148 in reply at Wankhede Stadium.
Litchfield, named player of the match and series after finishing with 260 runs at 86.67, followed her match-winning ton by taking a stunning catch at cover, diving full-stretch to pluck a gem with her right hand to intercept Amanjot Kaur’s powerful cover drive.

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Thirty years since the ball of the century: ‘I was trying to figure out what the bloody hell was going on’

Litchfield and Healy dominated from the outset, putting on 189 off 179 balls for the first wicket - the best by any opening pair against India.
“I learned from each innings,” 20-year-old Litchfield said. “The first innings [game one] was a challenge and the second was even more of a challenge.
“I got a bit lucky in all three innings but it was nice to get three figures.”
Trailing 2-0 in the series, India needed to pull off the greatest run chase in the history of women’s ODIs for a consolation win but a steady flood of wickets cruelled their slim hopes.

The spoils were shared with five bowlers striking: Georgia Wareham (3-21), Annabel Sutherland (2-9), King (2-21), Megan Schutt (2-23) and Ashleigh Gardner (1-38).


 
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Wondering if anyone can help. I was listening to the cricket on abc radio in the car earlier today. Was just after Marsh took his wicket. They radio was playing up but they were talking about a record the bowlers would get if they got another 4 wickets. The record was held by England. It was around 410-414 wickets and something about the big 4 ( They mentioned that Marsh taking his wicket wouldn’t affect it). Haven’t heard what exactly the record was or is. I am assuming it’s the amount of wickets the top 4 bowlers in a team have taken while playing together in the same team.
Can anyone clarify or answer this for me please
 
Well done Pakistan going from 5/96 to all out 313. Funny how that happens so often that a team goes from 5 for not much and the last 5 wickets seem to really dig in.
 
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Done a brilliant job the Pakistan tail. Come back from having their arses hanging out to post a bloody decent score n then nearly fluked Warner's wicket in that one over.
Massive effort by Postman Pat to grab a 5 for, for the third innings in a row. Poor bugger coulda used a bit more help from some of the other bowlers again.
 
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Amazing day of test cricket. 20 wickets :oops:
And still 21 overs to bowl, SA could get out twice in the one day :LOL:

India broke a record losing 6 wickets on the same score - 153.
And 6 ducks must be close to a record as well :D

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Amazing day of test cricket. 20 wickets :oops:
And still 21 overs to bowl, SA could get out twice in the one day :LOL:

India broke a record losing 6 wickets on the same score - 153.
And 6 ducks must be close to a record as well :D

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Incredible, South Africa won the toss, batted and were skittled for 55. Then as you said India are the first side in test match history to lose six wickets for 0 runs.
20 wickets fell for 208 runs...... I'm just home from watching the Scorchers score 211 off 20 overs.
 
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Incredible, South Africa won the toss, batted and were skittled for 55. Then as you said India are the first side in test match history to lose six wickets for 0 runs.
20 wickets fell for 208 runs...... I'm just home from watching the Scorchers score 211 off 20 overs.
Stumps Day 1
SA - 55 & 3/62
India - 153
SA trail by 36

23 wickets for 270 runs on day one o_O
 
Stumps Day 1
SA - 55 & 3/62
India - 153
SA trail by 36

23 wickets for 270 runs on day one o_O
FMD. Were they playing on a minefield or something? That's not a score card that belongs in any form of cricket game anywhere around the world. Except maybe in one of those blind cricket games where they roll a rattly ball along the ground n even they'd probably do better than the Sth Africans.
 
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Wondering if anyone can help. I was listening to the cricket on abc radio in the car earlier today. Was just after Marsh took his wicket. They radio was playing up but they were talking about a record the bowlers would get if they got another 4 wickets. The record was held by England. It was around 410-414 wickets and something about the big 4 ( They mentioned that Marsh taking his wicket wouldn’t affect it). Haven’t heard what exactly the record was or is. I am assuming it’s the amount of wickets the top 4 bowlers in a team have taken while playing together in the same team.
Can anyone clarify or answer this for me please

Test cricket’s most prolific quartets bowling together​

415: Moeen Ali, Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad, Ben Stokes (34 Tests)
410: Pat Cummins, Josh Hazlewood, Nathan Lyon, Mitchell Starc (25)
387: Jimmy Anderson, Stuart Broad, Joe Root, Ben Stokes (58)

 
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FMD. Were they playing on a minefield or something? That's not a score card that belongs in any form of cricket game anywhere around the world. Except maybe in one of those blind cricket games where they roll a rattly ball along the ground n even they'd probably do better than the Sth Africans.
The Thunder from last years BBL say hello.
 
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Shastri, after watching India lose their last 6 for 0:

“If someone went around the corner for a dump and has come back, India is bowled out for 153,”

Poetry so rich you can almost smell it.
 
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