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no - because he has the supply, the fedEx truck must have pulled up this morning.
im as confounded by your interpretation as you are by mine,
which is always a good starting point,
to end with
Caveat: If it becomes apparent Im in agreement with L2 on this, then change my POV 180 degrees please?
Sin.. not u sorry, im rushing comments as working. Meant a touch earlier that started replies with me. Sorry hope it clears it up
You're actually the one deflecting from the current issues. The HQ saga was mid-2020. Splashed on the front page of today’s Herald Scum. Its just deflecting from the root cause of why we are in the position we are currently in. Its not a coincidence “#MurdochRiots” has been trending number 1 all week. Victorians are angry at them.
Clutching at straws Ian when you start quoting Malcolm Turnbull, ( jilted PM scorned ).
I think Turnbull is a tool, but it doesn't mean he is wrong in this circumstance. history will not look too kindly on the Morrison government.
Not sure what you are driving at here? I thought what happened at national cabinet was public knowledge. After all One PM and 6 State Premiers tell us after each meeting (in 7 different ways)
The Vic gov were always looking at changing the second dose interval if they could confirm supply for the end of October and beyond. That was finally confirmed yesterday and now they've brought it forward. There's certainly urgency now that we've had multiple super spreading events.
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Maybe it is, and it's from 6 years ago so maybe the writer isn't with the Guardian any more.. Point is he's equating vaccinations with fascism for a long time.
I don't follow his cartoons any more but the article says he comes down pretty hard on mums who put their kids in childcare as well. That sucks too.
the babies in childcare cartoon furore was 10 years ago.
I loved that cartoon as well.
I reckon the mob rallies last week should all be tier 1 sites.
Anyone who attended should not be able to attend constructions sites for 2 weeks, when they reopen. And if they do those sites should be shut down.
Anyone who attended should not be able to attend constructions sites for 2 weeks, when they reopen. And if they do those sites should be shut down.
Interesting situation in Warrnambool. Over 90% of eligible have had first vaccination which is brilliant. But it’s been confirmed by the local hospital that 12 new cases have been confirmed and they will go onto tomorrow’s total.
How the government respond to this will be a good indicator for how they might treat future localised outbreaks. I’m guessing it will be a 7 day lockdown to buy more time so that in the next 3 weeks it will be 90% double dosed. But it shows that this virus can and will get a hold any given time even with over 90% doing the right thing by being vaccinated.
How the government respond to this will be a good indicator for how they might treat future localised outbreaks. I’m guessing it will be a 7 day lockdown to buy more time so that in the next 3 weeks it will be 90% double dosed. But it shows that this virus can and will get a hold any given time even with over 90% doing the right thing by being vaccinated.
If there's nothing incriminating in the national cabinet meeting minutes, why are they trying to desperately to keep them hidden from the public? Even liberal party members are crossing the floor to vote against it because they're sick of the lack of accountability of this government.
If the national cabinet minutes made the federal government look good, there's no doubt they'd be releasing them.
Yes if NSW have such an abundance of Pfizer & Moderna that they can offer it to all over 60's when ATAGI says AZ is suitable for over 60's then those Pfizer & Moderna doses should be distributed to Victoria or other states that are following the recommended guidelines.
NSW have done virtually nothing to promote AZ so shouldn't be rewarded with an oversupply of the alternatives.
**Edit: Health Minister Greg Hunt said this afternoon Victoria has also agreed to let all adults choose their vaccine of choice, (once again Victoria follows NSW lead
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We are talking about the guy standing in front of the vaccine tank right? If we are then clearly you are a much deeper man than I am.
I go back to the start of this wave - Delta. I am not a reader of the epidemiology, I just hear what CHO and all the other experts say - Delta is X times more transmissible / catchable than the 2020 variant.
The restrictions in Victoria in 2021 were by and large what we had last year. Even if we had the same degree of adherence to rules there would be greater transmission. I think the NSW experience showed that in July/ August. They got away with it last year, not this year.
eg I have no evidence but would mask / distancing regs in construction tea rooms be adhered to at higher levels last year?
Do you think the large families of northern Melbourne mixed less last year? There are the same number of multi family households as there were last year etc.
work place transmission is still occurring.
So I think the ingredients were all there for us to follow the NSW trajectory.
It has been accelerated by:
1) more "permitted workers" - these are not essential workers - just someone who can get a boss to sign a form
2) complacency of the VACCINATED, have the superman cape
3) Lockdown fatigue - young people in particular (staying at home was the last thing I ever wanted to do in my 20s - uni, sport, weekends away, pub, footy, work, parties, and repeat - two years without that .... )
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I find this interesting.
Im in Vic & I had my 1st Pfizer on July 15 and my 2nd exactly 3 weeks later on the 5th August.
