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40km a day? have you got Dion Prestia pulling the rum cart?
I speed up every time I see someone ignoring social distancing guidelines or hoarding dunny paper. I clean them up with my cart and it's like a video game power-up.

At this rate I'll be there by Friday.
 
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yep. mowed a full sized footy field and put up some poly-pipe goal posts. Me and Ezy,jr. playing a 2 man game each Saturday at 2pm. yesterday we had a bit of a standoff about who was being Richmond, which we overcame by making it an intraclub. Ezy,jr's Richmond took the honours 51.2.308 to 0.1.1. EZJ managed to touch my only shot on the goal line after a shot fell short after I was awarded 2 X 50m penalties when EZJ didnt agree with a centre square ruck infringement and used some unacceptable language.

Love this, reminds me of the one time when I was a kid and convinced my father to play footy with me.

My father has no interest in footy at all. But, more to the point, he has a prosthetic leg and can't actually run. It was a thrashing!

Giving business the keys to the safe.

Unregulated business will save us all. Business men are altruistic and highly moral people, with the needs of the working man foremost in their minds, of course

Of course they will because that's what neo-liberal ideology tells them to do: look after the community, help where needed, don't take advantage of a situation to enrich yourself . . . oh, wait a minute, that's the precise opposite of the ideological recommendations they spout.

The support needs to go to people, not businesses. People are what matters.

DS
 
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Might finally dawn on the American population that thoughts and prayers do jack ****.

more likely to dawn on a whole stack of dumb people that they are under attack from china and only trump will save them

while all the smart people write long eloquent anti-trump diatribes,

but don't vote.
 
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More draconian measures to come announced by Adolf Morrison with more stimulators to come.

$100K for SMEs ......that sounds good. Mr Posh will like it.

Quite the opposite TF. Reckon this does nothing to protect against job losses. More bulldust from this government proving they still don't understand the issues. They are still talking about stimulating the economy. The issue isn't a stimulisation issue its a jobs issue.

I have an apology to make though, to both Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. I think I did them a disservice comparing dumb and dumber to Scomo and Frydenberg, Lloyd and Harry were much smarter.
 
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The support needs to go to people, not businesses. People are what matters.

DS

But this is what the government are doing, giving the money to people when they are out of jobs. To me this is dumb, and the money should be given as wage subsidies to companies which is dependent on them retaining staff. Neither of these things are being done, they are giving payroll tax refunds, company grants etc which will lead to businesses taking the cash and still removing staff.

They are then giving more money to people already out of work.

They have gone about this the complete opposite way around. I'm shocked that Frydenberg actually has an economics degree, proves that people can learn anything but using them in practise takes something quite different.
 
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But this is what the government are doing, giving the money to people when they are out of jobs. To me this is dumb, and the money should be given as wage subsidies to companies which is dependent on them retaining staff. Neither of these things are being done, they are giving payroll tax refunds, company grants etc which will lead to businesses taking the cash and still removing staff.

They are then giving more money to people already out of work.

They have gone about this the complete opposite way around. I'm shocked that Frydenberg actually has an economics degree, proves that people can learn anything but using them in practise takes something quite different.

They should give money to poor/low income people who WILL spend it, they have to. Secure businesses if given money will save it, doing nothing. I like your idea of giving companies support IF they retain staff.
 
But this is what the government are doing, giving the money to people when they are out of jobs. To me this is dumb, and the money should be given as wage subsidies to companies which is dependent on them retaining staff. Neither of these things are being done, they are giving payroll tax refunds, company grants etc which will lead to businesses taking the cash and still removing staff.

They are then giving more money to people already out of work.

They have gone about this the complete opposite way around. I'm shocked that Frydenberg actually has an economics degree, proves that people can learn anything but using them in practise takes something quite different.

It'll be part of a stepped approach. Tend to agree that assisting employers to retain staff won't do a whole lot as business shuts down. Let's hope they have plenty more ammo in the tank. We'll need it.
 
They should give money to poor/low income people who WILL spend it, they have to. Secure businesses if given money will save it, doing nothing. I like your idea of giving companies support IF they retain staff.

That's all they should be looking at, wage subsidies to businesses and they need to prove they have retained the staff.

Government has put together these packages for $198bn. If they supported all employed staff in this country (we have 13m employed), and they wouldn't need to pay them all as there are a significant number that still need to work, ie. emergency services, government jobs, waste companies, supermarket operators etc and I'm sure there are plenty more, but just to give a gauge.

13m people at $500 per week is $6.5bn / week. 6 months support would equal $169bn, importantly this is LESS than what the government have come up with and IMO would have a much bigger impact on protecting our economy through this period. They obviously wouldn't need this full amount as a lot of jobs don't need supporting, but I was just trying to show how this plan would likely have a far better return than what the government is doing.

Between this and providing the 9.5% guaranteed super contributions directly to staff instead and allow companies to reduce the hours they pay based on (ie. move to a 3 or 4 day week where they can work from home) would have a significant decrease in companies salary costs, whilst also supporting employees income.
 
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Trying to make sense of the non-essential travel ban. Is it enforced or just a recommendation?
 
Victorian distribution

metro - 256 cases
Geelong - 8
Ballarat - 3
Macedon Ranges, Surf Coast, Warrnambool - 2
Latrobe, Mildura, Moorabool, Hepburn, Mitchell, Gannawarra, Yarriambiack - 1