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Makes it hard to expect compliance from the populace in general when you see blatant breaches that cause absolute mayhem for that general populace go unpunished. Yet he stands up there and threatens anyone that wants to drive to the Bellarine Peninsula with a massive fine. But then if that person spreads the virus on the Bellarine they'll get off scot free.
Plus I have absolutely zero faith that these people who blatantly breach the regulations and spread the virus will have any compunction about being fully cooperative with the contact tracers. They are just selfish arseholes who will whatever is in their own best interests. How has this outbreak spread so quickly between different schools in the western and northern suburbs? Family gatherings in breach of the regulations; this was still banned after we came out of lockdown 5 and was not lifted before lockdown 6.
It does my head in. Last three days, going for a walk, every single tradie and every single road maintenance worker - no masks. None of them. Removalists I saw...no masks either. Yes, removalists. Oh, and if you walk a dog you don't need to wear one either be it walking past someone else on the footpath, standing around on top of one another with other dog owners, standing outside a cafe in a group a la AAMI or the MCG. No mask required.Two selfish/ignorant tradies INSIDE Coles Richmond this morning masks under their chins, WTF, makes my blood boil.
Just confirms that you can't rely on everyone doing the right thing and we are in the lap of the gods
Tradies, blue collar workers, dog walkers. All exempt from wearing a mask. I just give them all the finger and keep walking. *** them. Had enough.
Is that fact?
Covid spread quickly between schools in Brisbane. An epidemiologist went and studied the movement of the kids and could see how- which kids caught the same bus, hung out at the same shopping centre etc.
https://twitter.com/covidbaseau suggests one school - Waringa Park is linked to the Hobson Bay outbreak, so not at all linked to the other schools.
Then a resident of the Flemington towers attend Mt Alexander College. the link to Newport is unspecified.
So maybe 1 positive case at a different school was from a family gathering, or maybe not.
Family gatherings in the western suburbs are also exempt apparently. The more the merrier. Come get your COVID19!
I can go to my local beach unhindered. There’s some weird obsession with Bondi and Sydney beaches. Is it jealousy?
Plenty of people at the beaches in melb without masks. Just drive past Frankston beach and have a look. Heaps walking up and down most maskless or not wearing them correctly. I don’t think we are having massive transmission at the beaches.
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At the very start of this outbreak the teacher from Al-Taqwa college was identified as the first case and then the same day 2 other similar schools were shutdown; none were that close together. That same teacher and her husband also infected family members who did not live in the same household. Wonder how that happened? It is fact that the second wave exploded last year in no small part to family gatherings attended by infected people. Do you really think that is not happening this year? They all caught COVID on a bus?
Reading this in the paper this morning I just kept thinking that herd immunity does not mean you don't catch the virus, it means that if you do catch the virus it is unlikely to make you sick and very highly unlikely to kill you.
We live with many viruses all the time, anyone ever had a cold?
Anyway, the end of the article actually tied it up much better:
We can't keep living like this and the vaccines give us the opportunity to live with COVID. It is very rare to actually eradicate a virus, what is more common is that vaccinations, or the virus mutating as the Spanish Flu did in the early 20th century, mean that we can live with the virus as it is no longer killing large numbers of people.
More viruses will appear in time, more pandemics will happen. Many viruses are appearing all the time and we ignore them as our immune system deals with them or they just don't make us very sick.
The dream of eradicating COVID-19 is just that, a dream. What is far more possible is to reach a situation where it is not a big threat and is just another one of those viruses which we live with.
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I've got an old woman on one side of me that goes to her daughters house and her duaghter's family every single day. Every single day. Standard pre covid activity and has not modified one iota during covid no matter what lockdown version.
On the other side of me I've got a permanently unemployed, drug ***'ed ahole that yells, screams, plays loud music all the time. During every lockdown he's been out an about in his car for hours, visitors over to his place partying up etc. On Monday night he had a bogan loser mate over and they went ballistic on the doof doof and gear for hours.
On the other side of me I've got a permanently unemployed, drug ***'ed ahole that yells, screams, plays loud music all the time. During every lockdown he's been out an about in his car for hours, visitors over to his place partying up etc. On Monday night he had a bogan loser mate over and they went ballistic on the doof doof and gear for hours.
Can you at least stop playing "You Spin Me Right Round...Right Round" ???
I thought Harry was old woman next door who visits her daughter every day
Ah. Harriet. Got it.I thought Harry was old woman next door who visits her daughter every day
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Human trials were overwhelmingly positive. You really shouldn't post when you possess such a paucity of information. Luckily some bloke has produced a timeline of Ivermectin related events (both pro and con). The timeline in the attached runs from April to June 21. But his reference list at items 5 and 6 link to his earlier work detailing the timeline from the commencement of the pandemic. Best to actually draw on some facts before opining.
It’s an essential plank, but the problem of how to keep the virus from overwhelming us without lockdowns still looms.
Interesting article, scanned it quickly. Essentially a literature review/summary - made me laugh they actually referred to the Kelly stuff on Sky News Aus and that is given equal weight to scientific studies. This paper summarises both the medical trials and also socio/political content and essentially argues that subconscious and conscious bias in medical bodies, governments and journalism meant that ivermectin treatments were not given a fair go. Strange you conclude the actual scientific studies were "overwhelmingly positive" when results were very mixed at best.
What is clear is that actual human trials in 2020 and into 2021 were not conclusive, with a potential for some reduced hospital time for patients in some trials. Other trials did not show this.
As for the claims that Fauci suppressed all this so he could benefit from stock holdings/embarrass Trump/perpuate the Scamdemic that's all loony tunes. Ivermectin or other anti-virals could have a part to play in treatment of covid like viruses in future, but the jury is still out and more work needs to be done.
You got 911 conspiracy theories right and gave them short-shrift, seems you've gone right off the deep-end on this one lamby. Ivermectin as a potential treatment warranting further research is one thing but demonising Fauci along with the Trump/Scamdemic crowd is nuts. You've changed man.
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Essential would make it high priority I'm guessing. Glad you've finally come around.
The article is pretty clear about the way out - frequent vaccination via boosters, some social distancing, time for natural resistance to develop. I can't see where the article actuallly posits that lockdowns will persist much when we move into the "living with Covid" as a seasonal virus phase.
Lockdowns are an issue for the here and now in Australia, and are essential, no doubt - other countries with higher vaccination rates are moving past lockdowns pretty quickly now.
You've scanned it have you including the other 100 pages from the earlier timeline and about 500 references in 20 minutes and concluded the results were 'mixed at best'
*smile* wit!
