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Baloo said:
I think you're selling the Army short when it comes to logistics. The UK rollout was overseen by the military and they did an amazing job.
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Except for the pre screening form and the nurse administering the needle, the rest of it is not " Medicine". It's logistics.... and military can provide a great deal of assistance in this area to the public service (whether their political overlords are labour or liberal)
 
22nd Man said:
Except for the pre screening form and the nurse administering the needle, the rest of it is not " Medicine". It's logistics.... and military can provide a great deal of assistance in this area to the public service (whether their political overlords are labour or liberal)
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Like I said, the military is not running the distribution, it's just an ex-military guy overseeing the roll-out. He could be great, who knows, but it ain't the military rolling it out.
 
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TigerForce said:
Sad to see what small business owners are going through. This city is a ghetto as most want to WFH.
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For sure and Sally Capp can plead all she likes but here are five anecdotal cases why it isn't going to happen for at least two years
1) The council,itself invested in technology to allow more staff to work from home (source friend of mine who works there for 30 years and she is town planning and lives 20 km from the city, so if you think councils are of touch with their domains and constituents worse is to come)
2) DeotDept of home Affairs. Tiger mate says minimum and acceptable office attendance from now is one day a week. She was prepared for more but her boss said I'm only doing 1 day so she said beauty me too)
3) Project Manager for one of big energy distributors in Doclands not required at all to go to office except for ad hoc meetings.
4) family member State dept of health !! Three days only but since being ordered to clear all his personal possessions from office in March still has not been given a location to return to office.
5) mate in civil engineering in CBD ..company has reduced its lease from 3 floors to 1.5, they aren't cutting staff.

Whilst all those super fund owned new office towers will get their tenants, the towers they leave will lie empty. Some serious pivoting of the CBD will be needed.
I think it's sad because Melbiurnes centre is truly a magnificent place.
 
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22nd Man said:
For sure and Sally Capp can plead all she likes but here are five anecdotal cases why it isn't going to happen for at least two years
1) The council,itself invested in technology to allow more staff to work from home (source friend of mine who works there for 30 years and she is town planning and lives 20 km from the city, so if you think councils are of touch with their domains and constituents worse is to come)
2) DeotDept of home Affairs. Tiger mate says minimum and acceptable office attendance from now is one day a week. She was prepared for more but her boss said I'm only doing 1 day so she said beauty me too)
3) Project Manager for one of big energy distributors in Doclands not required at all to go to office except for ad hoc meetings.
4) family member State dept of health !! Three days only but since being ordered to clear all his personal possessions from office in March still has not been given a location to return to office.
5) mate in civil engineering in CBD ..company has reduced its lease from 3 floors to 1.5, they aren't cutting staff.

Whilst all those super fund owned new office towers will get their tenants, the towers they leave will lie empty. Some serious pivoting of the CBD will be needed.
I think it's sad because Melbiurnes centre is truly a magnificent place.
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Yeah I love all of these Melbourne City Council and State Government figureheads bemoaning the lack of workers in the CBD yet all the while a large portion of their own workers are still working at home. Hypocritical much?

I also agree it will be quite sad if the Melbourne city centre doesn’t get back to something like it was pre covid.
 
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22nd Man said:
For sure and Sally Capp can plead all she likes but here are five anecdotal cases why it isn't going to happen for at least two years
1) The council,itself invested in technology to allow more staff to work from home (source friend of mine who works there for 30 years and she is town planning and lives 20 km from the city, so if you think councils are of touch with their domains and constituents worse is to come)
2) DeotDept of home Affairs. Tiger mate says minimum and acceptable office attendance from now is one day a week. She was prepared for more but her boss said I'm only doing 1 day so she said beauty me too)
3) Project Manager for one of big energy distributors in Doclands not required at all to go to office except for ad hoc meetings.
4) family member State dept of health !! Three days only but since being ordered to clear all his personal possessions from office in March still has not been given a location to return to office.
5) mate in civil engineering in CBD ..company has reduced its lease from 3 floors to 1.5, they aren't cutting staff.

Whilst all those super fund owned new office towers will get their tenants, the towers they leave will lie empty. Some serious pivoting of the CBD will be needed.
I think it's sad because Melbiurnes centre is truly a magnificent place.
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Yep all true 22. I'm doing one day a week in the CBD if that.

I see both sides, better quality of life, less travel, more money in the burbs. But tough if you are trying to run a cafe in the CBD. And Melbourne's CBD is a beautiful place
 
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Vaccination only became a low priority for this government when they completely cocked up getting enough to go around.

We also know that vaccination is the only way we can open up international borders, the slower the vaccine roll out is, the longer the economy suffers from closed borders.

This is all common knowledge, anyone arguing that the vaccine roll out has been quick enough or that we don't need to speed it up is just fudging. The Feds are doing a hell of a lot of fudging because they know they f***ed up.

As for the notion that the virus could be circulated by terrorists, that is just unhinged, the sort of irrational, unsubstantiated drivel I expect from the worst corners of the internet.

DS
 
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DavidSSS said:
This is all common knowledge, anyone arguing that the vaccine roll out has been quick enough or that we don't need to speed it up is just fudging. The Feds are doing a hell of a lot of fudging because they know they f***ed up.
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Once you get on a track you just can't get off, you're on rails to the end of the line and beyond.
DavidSSS said:
As for the notion that the virus could be circulated by terrorists, that is just unhinged, the sort of irrational, unsubstantiated drivel I expect from the worst corners of the internet.
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Just speculation. I didn't say it was likely.

Do you totally dismiss the possibility of anyone using the virus to destabilise another country?

https://www.lawfareblog.com/prosecuting-purposeful-coronavirus-exposure-terrorism
 
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Just the 2 new cases today which is good.
They seem on top of it...for now.

They want two days of zero new cases however.
 
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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Once you get on a track you just can't get off, you're on rails to the end of the line and beyond.

Just speculation. I didn't say it was likely.

Do you totally dismiss the possibility of anyone using the virus to destabilise another country?

https://www.lawfareblog.com/prosecuting-purposeful-coronavirus-exposure-terrorism
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I should resist replying to this pathetic dead cat, but anyway...

Terrorists commit acts of terror to cause shock, fear and ... terror So they pick things that are extremely violent, spectacular and most critically, UNEXPECTED. Little to be gained in spreading a virus that is already out and in the community. Hard to claim responsibility, people have already changed their behaviour in any case.

Can you imagine a terrorist spreading the virus in the UK? "That's ok, we don't care, it's already out, we are much better at treating it and we are all getting vaccinated anyway".

Complete wank.
 
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Both new cases linked to the aged care breakout. One a 79 year old who'd had 2 jabs already & was asymptomatic. The other a nurse.

I see that as a good thing..
 
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AngryAnt said:
I should resist replying to this pathetic dead cat, but anyway...

Terrorists commit acts of terror to cause shock, fear and ... terror So they pick things that are extremely violent, spectacular and most critically, UNEXPECTED. Little to be gained in spreading a virus that is already out and in the community. Hard to claim responsibility, people have already changed their behaviour in any case.

Can you imagine a terrorist spreading the virus in the UK? "That's ok, we don't care, it's already out, we are much better at treating it and we are all getting vaccinated anyway".

Complete wank.
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I'm just glad you don't work in national security.

ISIS Magazine Urges Using Kids to Spread COVID-19
 
You're right, 2 extra cases determined at 11.30am.
Will go on tomorrow's figures, so theres 2 more straight away unfortunately!
 
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Tigers of Old said:
Both new cases linked to the aged care breakout. One a 79 year old who'd had 2 jabs already & was asymptomatic. The other a nurse.

I see that as a good thing..
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Yeah that’s interesting isn’t it. 1 it’s in an environment possibly that they already know about ie aged care facility with preceding cases that they can contain maybe and 2) the person was 79 and asymptomatic after 2 jabs proving out a bit the effectiveness of the vax. Hope so.
 
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Redford said:
Yeah that’s interesting isn’t it. 1 it’s in an environment possibly that they already know about ie aged care facility with preceding cases that they can contain maybe and 2) the person was 79 and asymptomatic after 2 jabs proving out a bit the effectiveness of the vax. Hope so.
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Yes, good points.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
I'm just glad you don't work in national security.

ISIS Magazine Urges Using Kids to Spread COVID-19
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Of course they are saying this, geez, can you not see when an organisation is trying to gain publicity by hanging off anything in the news?

Oh, and yes, I will keep hanging s*** on the incompetence of the Feds on vaccines and quarantine, they couldn't organise a *smile* up in a brewery and we are seeing the impact of this right now.

DS
 
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