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I remember passing comment about people abroad who resisted government advice to return home at the outset of the pandemic and then sought to return later at a point of their own choosing. No doubt it wasn't flattering, but 'rat' isn't something that comes to mind when I'm being critical.
So the issue is with how Australia manages its quarantine, not the returning expat.
It's not possible to just pickup and leave on a whim for many expats. Jobs, schooling, medical issues, rent, elderly, and one of the toughest to deal with are pets.
But hey, if you say so, it obviously must be.
It's part of being alt right that you attack anyone whose situation is marginally different to your own without empathy or reason.
Don't worry ant, Australia is still your home and will welcome you with open arms if you choose to return despite the voices of the radical right.
If we don't have the infrastructure to deal with returning Australian citizens, then we still haven't dealt with this virus.
As an aside, I'm surprised Dan hasn't been blamed for the Adelaide outbreak.
Don't worry ant, Australia is still your home and will welcome you with open arms if you choose to return despite the voices of the radical right.
If we don't have the infrastructure to deal with returning Australian citizens, then we still haven't dealt with this virus.
As an aside, I'm surprised Dan hasn't been blamed for the Adelaide outbreak.
Its only day 1
They need some time to coordinate the narrative between the Murdochian rulers and the governments they own
Having been in your situation as a former expat, I discussed with Mrs ToO how we'd have reacted when Scomo first made the call for expats to return if we'd have been abroad..we both agreed that we'd have given notice in our jobs & got on the first plane we could & dealt with the consequences back home even though we didn't have work lined up. I understand not everyone is in that position where they can drop everything but it is a choice to stay when they're asked to return. All choices have consequences..
Now many expats have been stranded in hardship for months desperate to get home as situations have changed & the virus has exploded.
I feel sorry for them. It's unfortunate but ultimately they find themselves in the position they do because of choices made to stay.
Hopefully they can get home safely soon..
In my situation it didn't cross our minds. Maybe because we trusted the government and authorities here to manage the crisis better than most. In fact early days they were being held up as the example the world should follow. That changed but we're safe. I was also confident that I would continue to be employed and if required we could get very good healthcare for the family.
At the time it made no sense for us to pickup and leave. It still doesn't. But if things change enough to make us decide we need to return, we will, like rats deserting a sinking ship.
I get that. For us when we discussed it the decision was based purely on the uncertainty of the virus at the time & that we were fortunately in the financial position to re-establish ourselves at the other end. Not everyone has that. It's a huge decision to come home without security for most & would be terrifying for many. Especially with so many jobs disappearing.
It's all very well saying this stuff but are there a line of properly qualified people waiting for jobs working next to potentially COVID infected people and not being allowed to go home?
You are right about the police and the ADF not making any difference but fault/lapse in cleaning procedures is harsh. Keeping every surface clean and free of virus 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in an environment which is not set up for management of infectious disease is unbelievably difficult. People have to realise that as we continue to run Hotel Quarantine across Australia and we have more and more people returning there will be infections because it is almost impossible to stop it. The key is how we deal with what happens next.
There are examples across the world of health professionals fully kitted up in PPE still catching the virus in hospitals.
Google Translate used over professional translators for Government's official COVID-19 messaging
The chief executive of a peak multicultural body says using Google Translate on an official Government website is not acceptable, as the Department of Home Affairs answers to embarrassing questions tabled in Parliament.
www.abc.net.au
My hovercraft is full of eels..
Or was it brought by someone who was stranded in India, or Columbia, or any number of other countries, when the advice was first given to return home, but then India went into lockdown so people could not travel internally to get to international airports?
There were many many stories similar to the above where people were stopped from returning home as countries went into lockdown, numerous stories of multiple flights being cancelled etc- there was a case in Sth America where enough Australians were stuck they were going to charter a flight- becuase there flights had been continuously cancelled for months.
So I am not sure how you know this outbreak was caused by someone electing "to remain in Britain for work".
I think Dan said something along the lines of why the hell would anyone want to go to Adelaide so doubt he's been there to *smile* things up
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Most people make do in an emergency, I didn't say anything about it being easy. If it was too difficult or you didn't treat it as an emergency, then you should understand that the door is closed until the situation has been resolved.
Once again, it's just my opinion and not the way the government operates, so stick your indignance up your arse.
An ex-pat by definition is someone electing to reside in a country other than their own. Mostly it is used in an employment context. I made an assumption, but once again it is tangential to the issue of people coming in from countries where the virus is rampant.
It's got nothing to do with empathy and plenty with reason.
Now who's bringing up left, right and Dan??
Situations change, even you should be able to appreciate that from your cave.
I may look into what the government can do for me. It'll be a laugh knowing they'll be spending your tax dollars on me.
I didn't say anything about not supporting you. You lot are seeing what you want to see.
