Staff working at the hotels were also working at a pizza bar.
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Staff working at the hotels were also working at a pizza bar.
Standing by for criticism of the SA (liberal) Government & Steven Marshall for their mismanagement of hotel quarantine..
The "gig' economy is simply a way that business has attempted to maximise profits by eroding employee rights and priviledges.
I just hope SA's outbreak is a wake up call for the rest of Australia. The pandemic is certainly not over yet.
Can't believe that private security is STILL being used in hotel quarantine. We were told adnauseum that this was the primary reason for Victoria's outbreak (by the murdoch media rags anyway).
Its hard to comprehend why SA hadn't already replaced hotel security guards with ADF or SA Police personell. Its such a no brainer! /s
That may be the case, but businesses especially those in high risk scenarios should not be sharing staff between sites.
Ie. all aged care facilities should have been instructed that staff should be single site operators. Anyone operating in a hotel quarantine site, should not be able to have a secondary job, so none of them should be working as uber drivers / pizza shop workers etc.
This is common sense and I know for a fact (through the business I work for) that some companies and some government departments have actually followed through on this off their own back.
This may impact some businesses, but those businesses may already be receiving JobKeeper for those staff anyway so it wouldn't necessarily impact this bottom lines too much.
Agree. But its laughable to argue we should cease the entire casual or piecemeal labour because of this.
We can't cease them all but we should be bringing restrictions in as to how casuals should be used.
It would have helped but unless the mandatory testing is daily then it's not going to stop it completely and not even hospitals have that because it's logistically impossible.
Mandatory testing is only one step. It has to be combined with a lot of things like infection control, PPE, training and then when it happens effective contact tracing. Not one of those things on its own will eliminate the risk
It's better than a poke in the eye. Having said that a global standard of testing and protocols should be established. If we are going to have these bubbles, better tracing of individuals and requirements to have subsequent test(s) while here should be necessary. Sure you could be negative upon reaching the airport but travelling on a flying petri dish with others from god knows where is putting yourself at an extremely high risk of picking something up in transit.
Wait..we’re only introducing weekly testing for Hotel Quarantine staff now!?
The SA CHO is saying that the person first infected in the Quarantine Hotel had no contact with guests and most likely picked it up off a contaminated surface. Not defending the use of private security but it's difficult to imagine how having the SA Police or ADF guarding the hotel would have changed what happened. Seems like a fault/lapse in cleaning processes. She's also saying that this is a particularly nasty strain. It's really just another indication that the people returning from overseas should be locked up somewhere where the staff looking after them don't go home at night or go to other jobs.
I think the police have been involved, but they can't be the people responsible for cleaning etc. Check the photo in the link below, and note the date.
SA's hotel quarantine system 'close to capacity' as new cases trickle in
The head of South Australia's coronavirus response says the state's 1,200-bed hotel quarantine system is "close to capacity", as more people with the coronavirus enter the state from overseas.
www.abc.net.au
The article is about the system reaching capacity. When things get busy, people often don't keep following procedure, especially those that are poorly trained. So as you say there has been a fault or lapse somewhere.
Maybe the capacity of these "medi-hotels" should be minimised so as not to get overloaded. And obviously people working in them don't work elsewhere.
Lee's bizarre notions that expats should not be able to come home. Any Australian citizen should be able to come home when they can - many have been stranded and are in really difficult financial straits.
When they do come home they have to the responsibility to comply with whatever testing and quarantine procedures are deemed necessary by state/federal governments. As long as they do that, they have the right to return.
Ah right thanks. Yes I agree expats should be able to come home when possible. But we should also be implementing a program of expat testing in developed countries so that we are reducing the risk by getting as many expats as possible returning after they’ve shown a negative test result. Obviously as we’ve discussed that’s not really feasible for less developed countries. However the more we can implement such a program the less risk we take on. Regardless all returnees would still need to quarantine.
But most of all we need to substantially improve the quarantine program. Getting it out of hotels in major cities would be good start.
Seriously? They're Australian Citizens Lee!
Not their fault the hotel quarantine failed.
They were told to come home in MARCH. They made their decisions and they took their chances. They have NO *smile* RIGHT to bring the country down just because the second wave is five times worse than the first in the UK.
Manus or Christmas, or remain in place until you can get vaccinated. *smile* globetrotters.
What part of this didn't they understand?
DFAT says Australian travellers who want to return home amid COVID-19 pandemic should do so ASAP
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade issues advice recommending Australians abroad who wish to return home do so as soon as possible via commercial flights.
www.abc.net.au
Fortunately for people like you, it's just my opinion and not the government's stance.
