The people who have claimed the quarantine issues that led to the second wave in VIC is all Dan's fault have egg on their faces today. What is going on in SA shows how easy COVID can escape hotel quarantine, doesn’t matter how stringent the rules are. I hope for the sake of our friends in SA that they reign it in quickly. Nervous times.
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The people who have claimed the quarantine issues that led to the second wave in VIC is all Dan's fault have egg on their faces today. What is going on in SA shows how easy COVID can escape hotel quarantine, doesn’t matter how stringent the rules are. I hope for the sake of our friends in SA that they reign it in quickly. Nervous times.
The USA passes 11 million Covid cases. It took less than a week to go from 10 million to 11 million. Holy *smile*. This thing is like a wildfire. I really hope SA gets on top of it.
Hotel quarantine's only job is to prevent an outbreak. If the mechanism is not fit for purpose then governments should not accept the risk on behalf of their people.
Is it so important for Victoria to grab tennis tournaments from elsewhere?
On one hand, government is (rightly) ultra-cautious about opening up. On the other they are funnelling overseas travellers into the state. Obvious double standard.
The only potential location for an offshore facility is Christmas Island.
It doesn't have facilities to deal with people who potentially need to go on ventilators and the airport cannot take large aircraft.
So people would have to transit through an Australian mainland airport before being transferred to Christmas Island and then would have to be medivacced if they needed intensive care.
Better to set up facilities outside CBD's but close enough for people to be transferred in ambulances as required.
Howard Springs is a good example.
Plenty of vacant mining camps about and for that matter a transportable donga with ensuite rooms come in at approx $30k a room. Not that big a cost to set up a facility for say 2000 people in every state.
Point Cook Air Force base in Vic? Nothing much going on there now. Why not set up there. Most other cities would have similar sites.
my sister-in-law's uncle passed away from it and they blame the inadequacies of aged care sector.
Brisbane had moreton island as a leper colony early 20th century . Sydney had a spanish flu quarintine island in the harbour. Cocos keeling off WA ( or rotnest?). Chrismas island. Werribee horse quarintine station.
Surely it just needs to be 1 outside populated areas and 2. Staff dont go home each day?
All these joints have airstrips for medivac or build an icu unit.
To bring covid into the cbd and staff go home each night seems as absurd to me
As digging up coal
There is no doubt the issues in aged care were a major contributor to the spread of the virus and the deaths. My feelings on the aged care industry are very clear; it should not be in the hands of greedy for profit organisations that cut corners and costs at every opportunity.
But the fact is that the extremely poorly planned, implemented and managed hotel quarantine program was the cause of 99% of cases in the second wave. The Andrews Govt can not be resolved of that responsibility.
Another left field idea.
Deploy all the idle cruise ships to repatriate people.
Spend 2 weeks at sea in quarintine
Test day 2 and 12 at sea
No breakfast buffet, no cancan caberet shows.
Well they've had enough time to review the Victoria disaster so no excuses. But you can guarantee those greedy arseholes that run these facilities will be working any angle they can to make it cheaper and save a buck.
Yes there are a plethora of ideas that appear better than a medi-hotel in bloody Bourke Street!
I like the idea of disused military bases. There would be barracks and mess halls etc. They can quarantine staff with those returning from overseas, the staff hen get a couple of weeks paid leave. Point Cook is close to Avalon Airport too.
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I wasn’t referring to the Australian open I was referring to the post about hotel quarantine.
I couldn’t give a toss whether the Australian open is in Melbourne or not but if it is to be then I would expect us to have experience with overseas travelers by then so we will be able to see how we are going with that.
Not sure I'd be going for a 2 mile run after getting out of there. The Grim Reaper's strike rate has been pretty good there of late...
It was one and the same. The post was in response to the comment from Tiley that other states couldn't guarantee quarantine arrangements which implies that Victoria is better at handling quarantine.
Huh? So your predicting 700 cases in a day and over 800 deaths?
Let's wait and see before damning them.
I never said they weren’t, and Andrews has never hidden from this. But so many people out there are blaming 100% of the second wave on one single person, which is ridiculous and unfair. But I disagree it was poorly planned. How can you plan something that was handballed to you at the last minute (by a federal government shirking its own responsibility), in the limited amount of time they had to make decisions? There are so many layers to this. And what is happening in SA just proves how hard it is to deal with.
I'm not damning them. SA and NSW have had quarantine issues in the past and escaped a second wave. And we all accept that the hotel quarantine issue led to the second wave in VIC.
Well early indications in SA suggest SA have generally followed the right protocols and it still got out. I'm not blaming the SA government. But how many people who blame Andrews in VIC will refuse the condemn the SA govt? I'm just pointing out the obvious double standards that will be applied at some point.
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Reckon people just want to see Dan be accountable for decisions made. Nobody is expecting a single person to hold back the tide.
