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When it come to Covid-19 all rumours, innuendo, conspiracy theories welcome and the Covid thread is where it belongs not on some other board
Good article.
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Save Lives And Avoid A Catastrophic Recession
Long-term shutdown policies will have devastating effects on the economy while not protecting us from a huge secondary wave of corona. We need to map a middle course that both saves most lives and avoids a catastrophic recession.
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HE pumps up Sweden as the ideal model at the end. Sweden however by the latest reports is in for serious pain.Good article.
Thoughts!
Save Lives And Avoid A Catastrophic Recession
Long-term shutdown policies will have devastating effects on the economy while not protecting us from a huge secondary wave of corona. We need to map a middle course that both saves most lives and avoids a catastrophic recession.
Exactly.
Concerning is the timeframe until a vaccine can be found.
Up to 24 months.
A lot of countries will encounter serious financial pain , not only by the number of deaths they are enduring.
So they are 1/5 of the population and have 1/5 of the cases. The only distinct difference is death tally and partially explained by age demographic who have it. Our death tally is low in comparison to all countries. Given the similarities I assume you will praise Scomo as well for his brilliant leadership? And Aust have done it without going to Stage 4 restrictions? If anything we've done it better?Only 1 single death recorded in NZ so far. Brilliant leadership by Ardern to get on the front foot early.
New Zealand has recorded 1 death from coronavirus. Here's how they did it
New Zealand has managed to do something that many countries wish they could achieve: for four straight days, it has reported a decline in new coronavirus cases.edition.cnn.com
I wonder what the world numbers would look like if we had no social distancing, closures etc?
I wonder what these numbers would look like if we had no changes to life as we knew it?
I wonder what these numbers would look like if we had no changes to life as we knew it?
Story goes that some high ranking Hillsong Elders were on board as well as a couple of MPs. Remembering also that the number of Hillsong / Pentecostal senators in Parliament now is around 10? As for Dutton, no great loss not seeing him...
Seems very unlikely. More likely false readings. I rad that the accuracy of similar tests for influenza were 50-70%. The whole premise of our immune system is building immunity to know viruses.
Clearly NSW Health have to take responsibility for this if the following report is true. More medical information was requested on 17th March yet on the 18th they gave it a low risk and let everyone just leave, all 2700 of them. 128 reported ill with 24 having symptoms that clearly could have been COVID-19.
Closer to Sydney, the ship advised the Department of Agriculture, Water and the Environment that: ‘128 persons had reported as ill in the previous 14 days.
The symptoms declared by the vessel include 24 persons with temperature over 38 degrees Celsius, 6 persons with muscle aches, diarrhoea, severe headaches or vomiting.’
The federal department passed that information on to NSW Health for the next step.
According to Commissioner Outram of Border Force, NSW Health requested more medical information from the ship’s doctors on March 17.
The next morning they were told a few swabs had been taken for flu.
Also, below, why on earth would you ask for swabs to test for COVID-19 but let them leave before the results were returned? Just a total *smile* up.
NSW Health had asked the Ruby Princess to send its 15 samples to the testing laboratory for COVID-19 testing and told the Ruby Princess "you are free to disembark tomorrow", with all passengers required to go into self-isolation for 14 days.
NSW Health had asked the Ruby Princess to send its 15 samples to the testing laboratory for COVID-19 testing and told the Ruby Princess "you are free to disembark tomorrow", with all passengers required to go into self-isolation for 14 days.
Antivaxxer has the solution. I wonder if these harmonies neutralise 5G frequencies.
Celebrity chef Pete Evans wants Australians to know that all they need to fight the deadly coronavirus is a $15,000 frequency machine that uses “harmonies … found in nature”.
The controversial television cooking show judge, who recently praised the work of notorious anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr, spruiked the futuristic-looking machine to his Facebook followers on Thursday night.
In a Facebook live video, Evans said the BioCharger NG, which he sells on his website, is a “pretty amazing tool” which he and his family “use pretty much every day”.
“It’ll take you down some rabbit holes … it’ll take me an hour or two to explain it,” he said.
“Just briefly, it’s programmed with about a thousand different recipes. There’s a couple on there for Wuhan coronavirus that you may be interested in.”
The device is described on Evans’ website as a “hybrid subtle energy revitalisation platform” that uses “four transmitted energies (to) stimulate and invigorate the entire body to optimise and improve potential health, wellness, and athletic performance”.
A video explaining how it works tells users “just sit comfortably in front of the BioCharger and select a frequency recipe from the menu”.
One “non-invasive” session takes just 12 minutes and as many as six people can sit in front of the device at one time, according to Evans’ website.
Brisbane-based dietitian Mandy-Lee Noble shared the video on Twitter last night.
“Pete Evans is selling this ridiculous device for US$15K claiming it has some action against ‘Wuhan coronavirus’,” she wrote, before urging the Therapeutic Goods Administration and NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard to investigate and “shut Evans down”.
Ms Noble told news.com.au Evans was acting irresponsibly.
“Although this device is unlikely to cause direct harm it can cause indirect harm if people believe it will treat or prevent COVID-19 infection,” she said.
She said items like this were “a risk to the community response to the COVID-19 pandemic.”
Evans claims his family uses the device almost every day. Source: Supplied
Associate Professor of Medical Science Dr Darren Saunders wrote on Twitter: “Having spent years whipping up baseless fear about WiFi, Pete Evans is now selling a $14,900 hybrid subtle energy revitalisation platform” to pump ‘energies’ into your body.”
Evans in January shared a selfie with Robert F Kennedy Jr, praising his “important work”.
Mr Kennedy, the nephew of US President John F Kennedy, and the son of his fellow politician brother Robert F Kennedy, is one of the most prominent figures in the anti-vaxxer movement in America.
In his social media post, Evans tagged the profile of Children’s Health Defence, an organisation founded by Mr Kennedy that promotes now-universally debunked conspiracies about various vaccinations.
Royal Australian College of General Practitioners president Harry Nespolon said Evans should “stick to talking about ‘activated almonds’ and leave vaccinations alone”.
News.com.au has reached out to Evans for comment.
— with Shannon Molloy
Celebrity chef Pete Evans wants Australians to know that all they need to fight the deadly coronavirus is a $15,000 frequency machine that uses “harmonies … found in nature”.
The controversial television cooking show judge, who recently praised the work of notorious anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr, spruiked the futuristic-looking machine to his Facebook followers on Thursday night.
In a Facebook live video, Evans said the BioCharger NG, which he sells on his website, is a “pretty amazing tool” which he and his family “use pretty much every day”.
“It’ll take you down some rabbit holes … it’ll take me an hour or two to explain it,” he said.
“Just briefly, it’s programmed with about a thousand different recipes. There’s a couple on there for Wuhan coronavirus that you may be interested in.”
The device is described on Evans’ website as a “hybrid subtle energy revitalisation platform” that uses “four transmitted energies (to) stimulate and invigorate the entire body to optimise and improve potential health, wellness, and athletic performance”.
A video explaining how it works tells users “just sit comfortably in front of the BioCharger and select a frequency recipe from the menu”.
One “non-invasive” session takes just 12 minutes and as many as six people can sit in front of the device at one time, according to Evans’ website.
Brisbane-based dietitian Mandy-Lee Noble shared the video on Twitter last night.
“Pete Evans is selling this ridiculous device for US$15K claiming it has some action against ‘Wuhan coronavirus’,” she wrote, before urging the Therapeutic Goods Administration and NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard to investigate and “shut Evans down”.
Ms Noble told news.com.au Evans was acting irresponsibly.
“Although this device is unlikely to cause direct harm it can cause indirect harm if people believe it will treat or prevent COVID-19 infection,” she said.
She said items like this were “a risk to the community response to the COVID-19 pandemic.”
Evans claims his family uses the device almost every day. Source: Supplied
Associate Professor of Medical Science Dr Darren Saunders wrote on Twitter: “Having spent years whipping up baseless fear about WiFi, Pete Evans is now selling a $14,900 hybrid subtle energy revitalisation platform” to pump ‘energies’ into your body.”
Evans in January shared a selfie with Robert F Kennedy Jr, praising his “important work”.
Mr Kennedy, the nephew of US President John F Kennedy, and the son of his fellow politician brother Robert F Kennedy, is one of the most prominent figures in the anti-vaxxer movement in America.
In his social media post, Evans tagged the profile of Children’s Health Defence, an organisation founded by Mr Kennedy that promotes now-universally debunked conspiracies about various vaccinations.
Royal Australian College of General Practitioners president Harry Nespolon said Evans should “stick to talking about ‘activated almonds’ and leave vaccinations alone”.
News.com.au has reached out to Evans for comment.
— with Shannon Molloy
Good article.
Thoughts!
Save Lives And Avoid A Catastrophic Recession
Long-term shutdown policies will have devastating effects on the economy while not protecting us from a huge secondary wave of corona. We need to map a middle course that both saves most lives and avoids a catastrophic recession.
It's an interesting dilemma, the health of the world or the wealth of the world, I'm not sure there can be a middle ground.
Sweden have gone with a very risky strategy, because per capita they don't have very many critical care beds.
Fig. 1 Numbers of critical care beds corrected for size of population...
Download scientific diagram | Numbers of critical care beds corrected for size of population (per 100,000 inhabitants) for European countries from publication: The variability of critical care bed numbers in Europe | To quantify the numbers of critical care beds in Europe and to understand the...
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Agree with this. It could be argued that Australia was maybe a bit slow to react but recent results have been outstanding. 9 of last 10 days have seen a reduction in new daily cases and the one anomaly was a minor increase.
Not to take anything away from NZ as they appear to have done a stellar job. But I reckon the task was that much more difficult in Australia given the much larger population and much greater our exposure to China and other countries via the influx of visitors we get. Plus we have managed it with stringent restrictions but not as harsh as those in NZ.
Both countries have handled it very well but it is interesting that Ardern gets so much more praise than Morrison. I reckon the federal and state governments in Australia have done an overall fantastic job after a shaky start.
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Sounds like a beauty! I'll have a couple to go with my Brocky Energy Polarizer that I've got on the Horvath nuclear Fairlaine.
Sounds like a beauty! I'll have a couple to go with my Brocky Energy Polarizer that I've got on the Horvath nuclear Fairlaine.
Doesn't that Sweden's strategy even worse as part of the flatten the curve is to take pressure of the health systemIt's an interesting dilemma, the health of the world or the wealth of the world, I'm not sure there can be a middle ground.
Sweden have gone with a very risky strategy, because per capita they don't have very many critical care beds.
Fig. 1 Numbers of critical care beds corrected for size of population...
Download scientific diagram | Numbers of critical care beds corrected for size of population (per 100,000 inhabitants) for European countries from publication: The variability of critical care bed numbers in Europe | To quantify the numbers of critical care beds in Europe and to understand the...
I think early on there was this impression that SCOMO was dragged kicking and screaming to what had to be done. Maybe it was when he said he was going to watch Cronulla play but to be fair that was a week after Dan procrastinated over the Grand Prix.
We were hesitating when Ardern was decisive in the early days of the pandemic but I think once our leaders worked it out they have done a decent job.
