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Do you think those countries might be spared the horrors of the US, UK & Europe LTRTR?
No reason for these countries to avoid the pandemic.

And with poorer living conditions - denser living, less access to water, worse sanitation - and less healthcare per population, the outcome will likely be worse.
India, Sth East Asia, Sth America and Africa are less affected now just due to the travel pattern of the Wuhan travellers, it will come.
 
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Yeah - I hate to see whats going to happen in those poorer populous countries and the refugee camps - it’s going to be a nightmare if it takes hold.

At the moment it’s a rich countries disease first - those who can afford to travel seem to be affected first but the poorer countries won’t be spared
 
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The one factor on the side of the poorer countries is the age demographic. I was listening to a report from an African country and they said that 50% of the population was under 14 years old.

Another thing is that people in the Third World are way harder than us Westerners. I lived in rural Indonesia for a number of years and nearly everybody I knew who were born before 1970 had suffered the loss of at least one child. Even when I was there in the 90's the death of a young person was still pretty common.
 
What part of the Italy, Spain and now NYC meltdowns is blindly believing? Plenty of theories abound about what is really happening but you just need to look at what's happened in those 3 places, and more to come, to see what we're currently dealing with.

UK's initial misstep into the herd immunity concept is probably what landed Boris Johnson in ICU.
As I stated in my earlier post everyone will need to choose their own path. For me, blindly believing everything that is delivered by the mainstream media without further investigation simply doesn't cut it especially considering the previous history of 'truth' in the media. For example omission of complete facts while feeding us selected truths helps to perpetuate the fear and stress people around the world are experiencing now. The city most impacted in Italy has the worst air quality in the world along with Wuhan in China and therefore an already high number of annual deaths due to respiratory illness /disease. The cycle of life including birth through death continues on regardless of world circumstances.

Italy, Spain and NYC all have a high concentration of already active 5G rollouts and although most people are blissfully unaware of the detrimental health impacts this has on the human body along with every other living organism on the planet, being blissfully unaware does not stop the damage. Many scientists and medical professionals around the world have been actively campaigning against 5G for many years. We already have 5G active in areas of Australia despite the senate enquiry results not yet revealed. https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House/Communications/5G
Interestingly the health of the population appears to not be a consideration for the terms of reference. Many varied opinions appear within the submissions depending upon individual perceptions and interests which is why I found submission number 38 from an Australian Army Officer being well detailed and informative including the information that 'The prestigious Lloyds of London Insurance Group refuses to cover 5G wireless mobile illnesses.'

The author of a book titled 'The Invisible Rainbow: A History of Electricity and Life' by Arthur Firstenberg is also referenced in submission 38. This book details a fascinating link to electricity and flu like viruses / pandemics / health issues dating back to the 1800s including a detailed reference listing. The health issues cover a wide range of possible symptoms depending upon the severity of cell poisoning and of course the strength of the immune system.

 
Badly.

They are roughly 90th for population in the world, 13th for deaths and have even more critical than dead. Could be wrong but it has always shaped as a disaster to me. Other Europeans say the Swedes think their **** doesn't stink; perhaps that's true of the scientific body entrusted with the decisions.

By the time that this virus gets to similar levels in India, Indonesia, Philippines, Africa then the country ranking will be significantly different.
A population comparison isnt the best as it clearly has affected Europe as the 2nd wave, the 3rd wave is UK and USA, with a few more waves to come.
Still the number of deaths/cases in Sweden is a cause for concern due to their approach.

The Swedes were perhaps hoping that patient tracking would be more effective due to geographical distance combined with voluntary distancing.
As they don't use the Euro and have their own currency, their economy would be susceptible and at a high risk of recession.
Agreed it has been a high-risk approach.

I have an ex-GF who is a nurse in Stockholm. I like the country a lot, so I hope like hell that they avoid the worst.
 
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The city most impacted in Italy has the worst air quality in the world along with Wuhan in China

Can't find any Italian city in any of the top 50 most polluted cities list. Po Valley does have a pollution problem, but to say it's the worst in the world is as fanciful and linking 5G to COVID-19.
 
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The one factor on the side of the poorer countries is the age demographic. I was listening to a report from an African country and they said that 50% of the population was under 14 years old.

Another thing is that people in the Third World are way harder than us Westerners. I lived in rural Indonesia for a number of years and nearly everybody I knew who were born before 1970 had suffered the loss of at least one child. Even when I was there in the 90's the death of a young person was still pretty common.
That’s true but to me we just don’t know the numbers in underdeveloped countries.
Look at Cambodia for instance, 117 infections. There is no way that is true, total tests carried out are about 5600 only.
They have about the same positive test to total test ratio as we have, they just aren’t testing or can’t test.
That is probably the case in many underdeveloped countries
 
One thing I find interesting is that here in Denmark when the media announce figures, they ALWAYS say (rough translation here), "in the last 24 hours, x people have died while they were infected with the virus". They NEVER say "they died due to the virus", nor even "complications from the virus". It's always "died while infected with the virus".
One man here died of a heart attack at the age of 81 and he had the virus. It was openly admitted that he would have died even without it due to the heart attack, but he was still included in the covid-19 death figures.
 
No reason for these countries to avoid the pandemic.

And with poorer living conditions - denser living, less access to water, worse sanitation - and less healthcare per population, the outcome will likely be worse.
India, Sth East Asia, Sth America and Africa are less affected now just due to the travel pattern of the Wuhan travellers, it will come.

I was thinking along the lines of being such warmer climates they may escape some terrible outcomes due to what you outlined above Tigerdell but all it takes for a handful of cases and we could escalate to horrific numbers.

Hope we are wrong !
 
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By the time that this virus gets to similar levels in India, Indonesia, Philippines, Africa then the country ranking will be significantly different.
A population comparison isnt the best as it clearly has affected Europe as the 2nd wave, the 3rd wave is UK and USA, with a few more waves to come.
Still the number of deaths/cases in Sweden is a cause for concern due to their approach.

The Swedes were perhaps hoping that patient tracking would be more effective due to geographical distance combined with voluntary distancing.
As they don't use the Euro and have their own currency, their economy would be susceptible and at a high risk of recession.
Agreed it has been a high-risk approach.

I have an ex-GF who is a nurse in Stockholm. I like the country a lot, so I hope like hell that they avoid the worst.

My wife has her best friend living in Sweden, Stockholm and we are concerned as her friend is a nurse!
 
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As I stated in my earlier post everyone will need to choose their own path. For me, blindly believing everything that is delivered by the mainstream media without further investigation simply doesn't cut it especially considering the previous history of 'truth' in the media.

So how do you deal with Icke's reptilian thoughts? Are you selective in what you believe comes out of his mouth?
 
Can't find any Italian city in any of the top 50 most polluted cities list. Po Valley does have a pollution problem, but to say it's the worst in the world is as fanciful and linking 5G to COVID-19.

Don't bring facts into this.
 
Sweden with another 96 deaths. Australia has 2.5 times Sweden's population and has conducted 6 times as many tests, yet Sweden has 1.4 times as many positives and nearly 14 times as many deaths, as well as nearly 8 times as many severe/critical.

Our approach has been altogether more humane and, dare I suggest, more "socialist".
 
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