10 minutes of my time lost. I was waiting for him to get to a categorical statement in his argument. Never happened.
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10 minutes of my time lost. I was waiting for him to get to a categorical statement in his argument. Never happened.
They have no reason to BS. Remember the China lock down was severe. People weren't allowed out of their house even for groceries. They locked down harder than any other country can. With a 2 week incubation, you can kill this virus if you suffocate it's ability to spread. Now they just need to protect their borders.
He's been on the phone with Sean Hannity @ fox news today. ... lucky he can't go to the studio coz it'd be Xrated as they lick each other all over.
Them yankees are serious dumb *smile* for ever letting this bloke get elected!
I don't really trust the numbers coming out of China, they seem too good to be true. Certainly China has locked down and slowed the spread effectively. But no more deaths? Hmm.
The real issue for China now is what next? How much do they open up their cities and rural areas, and how and when do they open their borders? This is almost unanswerable.
That said, I don't fully trust the US figures either as I suspect that not only are they not testing enough people, but that the testing is going to be skewed towards those who can afford testing. In the US I very much doubt the poor are being tested at anywhere near the rate which would give us meaningful numbers.
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don't underestimate the lack of intelligence of middle america. the Trump cult is massive.
those numbers are astronomical though. i'm cure the conspiracy theorists are getting a big kick out of it.
and people will believe it.
Malaria Drug Helps Virus Patients Improve, in Small Study
People are making claims about a lot of established drugs.
The virus is still present, so how are they preventing it from spreading?
You don't stop an epidemic like this in its tracks, especially when you're at the epicentre of the outbreak with a population of 1.4 billion.
They're reporting 2 deaths per million, the same as Australia. It isn't credible.
Badly.
They are roughly 90th for population in the world, 13th for deaths and have even more critical than dead. Could be wrong but it has always shaped as a disaster to me. Other Europeans say the Swedes think their *smile* doesn't stink; perhaps that's true of the scientific body entrusted with the decisions.
Not all countries are reporting each statistic in a timely manner. Batches of "recovered" might be reported a few days apart. Infections and deaths are the two consistent ones, as far as the governing regime's honesty allows...
I don't trust the numbers out of China either but I also agree with Baloo in a way that there s no reason to fudge them now.
I read an article a couple of weeks ago in relation to the estimated numbers of funerals that were held in Hubei province at the height of the infections there. The suggestion was that deaths were likely to have been 10-20,000 rather than the 3000 or so they reported officially and probably the infections were much higher as well.
Who knows with China? Their leaders think in a different way to most
That particular study was conducted on mildly ill patients. Considering the potential side-effects I don't think personally this will be the target audience. Bottom line is unless it can be shown in proper clinical trials to have a measurable benefit it's not going to be whisked out for mass use (as it shouldn't).
Looks like it will be used in Australia outside clinical trials but here are some other views (seen lots of these too):
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...nore-hydroxychloroquine-side-effects-n1178776
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...be-given-to-coronavirus-patients-in-australia
Yeah. I did state in my initial post that evidence for its efficacy is anecdotal and that it wasn't the answer.
Agree, figures are fudged. Tell me you can have 189,583 (probably also fudged) people in close contact with infected patients, then 5 million leave Wuhan all over the globe for the spring festival and/or to escape Wuhan and the rest of China basically get off scot free? Impossible.
The commission's website has been publishing daily updates since late January. From the first report on January 25, the number of cases of the now-named COVID-19 virus skyrocketed from 1,287 to 17,205 in just over a week. At that point, according to the commission, 189,583 people had “been identified as having had close contact with infected patients.”
On top of this, the commission acknowledged on January 26 that “More than 5 million people have left Wuhan due to the Spring Festival and epidemic
