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Coronavirus grand final.

tigerlove said:
Not quite right. As of Feb 29th estimated

* 14.8% of 80+ yo's have died
* 8% of 70-79yo's
* 3.6% of 60-69yo's
*1.3% of 50-59yo's
* rest under 0.4%

Risk of dying if having pre-existing condition of cardiovascular disease = 10.5%, if no pre-existing condition around 1%.

Certainly it is bias towards older people with pre-existing conditions (as are all viruses) but certainly not limited to predominantly 80+ yos. There's close to 3mill 55yo-65yo in Australia. A 2% strike rate if all were infected would be 60,000. 4mill over 65, at 10%, that's 400,000. Not saying of course that 100% will get the virus but these are large figures. It needs to be contained.

Sources:
https://www.who.int/docs/default-so...na-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf
http://weekly.chinacdc.cn/en/article/id/e53946e2-c6c4-41e9-9a9b-fea8db1a8f51
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Thanks TL.

I'm not suggesting only people over 80 or those with a pre-existing condition are the only ones at risk, but your stats do support the assertion that the aged and those with underlying issues are most at risk.

Your last sentence says it all. We just need to decide as a country how far we are willing to go to slow the spread. Closed stadiums, cancelled season?

And I'm STILL going to the MCG on Thursday if they'll let me in!!!!!!
 
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Yes, the younger are less likely to be severely impacted. But you wouldn't want to be the infected young gun who passes it onto elderly parents, relatives or friends just to watch them succumb to the virus.
 
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Theres a number of ways to deal with it, like others have said it depends how far we as a society want to go but if we just tread water and allow the virus to meander along, then we (and the rest of the world) exposes them to not only a health disaster but a social / economic one.

I'm probably starting to lean towards a full shutdown for a period of time (maybe 30 days) in order to contain and identify anyone that becomes sick is isolated from others.

There has to be isolation of some sort, either full isolation of those at high risk or full isolation of everyone for a period of time, with a full on strategy following on from that sutdown to prevent a 2nd wave. The at risk are not those that will be able to stop this, its those below 50 that can kill this off through their stringer immune systems generating antibodies targeted at killing this off. We do need to accept that we won't kill this off and without a vaccine to control it going forward, this will continue to kill people.

Its going to be a tough one for people to decide how much of a sacrifice people are willing to take but a half arsed response IMO will do more harm than good and create a social / economic disaster following that. The stock market is showing signs that this is being priced in as an eventuality that will occur likely because of poor governmental responses throughout most of the globe.

Italy is an interesting one that is now enacting the same protocols as China. It will be interesting to see if the trend of infections etc in Italy follow what has occurred in China. If it does, then it clearly shows that this is the way forward. Biggest worry from this is a 2nd wave in China, which would indicate that only a vaccine can stop this which would then take you to a damage limitation strategy, ie. we are going to lose A LOT of people and infection is an inevitability so I would think society would go back to normal, but deaths / infections will continue to rise up until a vaccine is found and mass produced.
 
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I reckon if they have to change the season,

they should have 2 prelims this saturday

Richmond V Collingwood (MCG)

GWS V WC (SCG)

and the grand final next Saturday.

then just play the 23 round draw in reverse (week 1 is a lucky dip), until such time as mayhem ensues,

then cancel the season.
 
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eZyT said:
I reckon if they have to change the season,

they should have 2 prelims this saturday

Richmond V Collingwood (MCG)

GWS V WC (SCG)

and the grand final next Saturday.

then just play the 23 round draw in reverse (week 1 is a lucky dip), until such time as mayhem ensues,

then cancel the season.
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No good. We don't peak till later in the season.
 
Italy is an interesting one that is now enacting the same protocols as China. It will be interesting to see if the trend of infections etc in Italy follow what has occurred in China. If it does, then it clearly shows that this is the way forward.
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It is quite literally the only way forward without a vaccine.
 
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deedee said:
Then I am surprised that Queensland's infected tally is growing so fast
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Well they only have 35 out of 195 nationally.

There will probably be a seasonal factor involved where it's less prevalent in the warmer months, but too early to know at this stage. It's really a predominantly northern hemisphere disease so far, and less out-of-control in the tropics.
 
If you are not QUALIFIED to speak about this virus, STFU. Whately just let about 5 utter morons onto SEN and did nothing to push back. Its just the elderly! Its a beat up! Its just a flu!! Jezuz h.
 
There it is from scotty.....official govt advice as of Monday....no non-essential gatherings over 500 bods. Just about guarantees no crowds....postponement much more likely.
 
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There it is from scotty.....official govt advice as of Monday....no non-essential gatherings over 500 bods. Just about guarantees no crowds....postponement much more likely.
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As of Monday, because his prosperity death cult is having a mass gathering this weekend and we can't not have that.
 
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deedee said:
Then I am surprised that Queensland's infected tally is growing so fast
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i wouldn't be. The majority of cases from Queensland and actually Australia wide were contracted outside Australia including Hanks and his wife. And you can still contract it with close contact with others regardless of the weather conditions.
 
I live in the tropics where it's 33C everyday.

Weve got plenty of cases and they keep coming.
 
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I live in the tropics where it's 33C everyday.

Weve got plenty of cases and they keep coming.
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Mysteriously tropical Indonesia still has very few. Did you see the reports of sick Indonesians flying to Singapore, getting diagnosed and treated there for COVID? They know which way the wind is blowing.

We had the "one" death so far in Bali but that was an old British tourist so I guess all the praying here is still working.
 
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