Compo picks

[Tenacious]

When are these picks to be used?

Do the have to be used this year?

Dunno - but I have the same query.
What year(s) can they be used - but also what actual number(s) are the picks?
e.g. if it's for this coming draft - will they sneak in ahead of our first pick?
??? Anyone know??

 

[Leysy Days]

Dogs a bit stiff, reckon Ward is every bit as valuable as Scully. An excellent young footballer.

Scully's higher contract has obviously got him the higher ranking.

Still the dogs should get a pick around 6-8 for Ward. Unders for what he'd be worth on the open market but they should net a decent player none the less.

Its the extra time to put into him that hurts.

 

[jb03]

Dogs a bit stiff, reckon Ward is every bit as valuable as Scully. An excellent young footballer.

Scully's higher contract has obviously got him the higher ranking.

Still the dogs should get a pick around 6-8 for Ward. Unders for what he'd be worth on the open market but they should net a decent player none the less.

Its the extra time to put into him that hurts.

Won't be that high will it leysy, isn't it taken immediately after their other first round pick?

Better to take the pick when you are lower on the ladder.

 

[Leysy Days]

Yeah depends where they finish so hard to know. say 11th would get them pick 8 roughly.

Could well be higher or even a bit lower.

 

[Tigerdog]

Compensation picks
Further, as part of the entry rules and in line with the rules that are in operation for the Gold Coast Football Club, Demetriou said the AFL Commission had again confirmed that any club that lost a player to the expansion side would be eligible for a compensation pick.

Compensation picks will be tradeable and can be used by clubs at any time within five years covering the period 2011 to 2015. First round compensation picks can not be until the 2012 draft onwards. Clubs will be required to nominate the year in which they plan to use the compensation pick before the first round of the Toyota AFL season in that particular year.

As per the rules with Gold Coast, the compensatory pick would be assessed around the player’s age (greater weighting for younger players), club contract ranking (greater weighting for club key players), on field performance (greater weighting for strong club best and fairest performance) and draft position if less than four years experience.

This ranking system will then determine if a club is eligible for a compensatory pick in one of five spots -- first round pick, end of first round pick, second round pick, end of second round pick or third round pick. Under the model, the round one, round two or round three picks would be taken immediately after the pick the club already has in that round in the draft that year.

 

[jb03]

Yeah depends where they finish so hard to know. say 11th would get them pick 8 roughly.

Could well be higher or even a bit lower.

Don't GWS get 1,2,3,5 etc. Would put that pick in the teens.

 

[Ty Esler]

I know Ward is a better and more explosive user, but if you look at their disposal and contested ball winning it is already almost identical. When you factor that Ward is two years older and Scully has been injury affected.... I know who I would rather have

Dusty?

Dunno - but I have the same query.
What year(s) can they be used - but also what actual number(s) are the picks?
e.g. if it's for this coming draft - will they sneak in ahead of our first pick?
??? Anyone know??

If they want to use the picks in 2011 they will be at the end of the first round so we will still pick 14

If they want to use the picks in 2012 onwards Crows, Bulldogs, and Dees get an extra first round after their 1st pick in the year they nominate. They have to nominate before the start of the season they intend to use the pick

Dees also get an extra mid first round pick immediately before the team that finish 8th in the year they nominate (except 2011). Again they have to nominate to use the pick before the season starts

Freo get a pick at the end of the first round whenever they use it (same as the pick we got for Bling)

 

[Leysy Days]

Don't GWS get 1,2,3,5 etc. Would put that pick in the teens.

Next year was thinkin.

 

[jb03]

Next year was thinkin.

Fair enough. Going to be impossible to work out the draft order next year with so many compo picks lurking.

 

[The_General]

What a joke.

If Ablett is worth 2 first round picks, no way Scully is worth the same.

The picks shouldn't be decided on how much a team is hurt, but on what the player is worth, based on their current level of performance.

Shouldn't pay based on perceived worth or speculation. Just a joke system.

 

[Leysy Days]

Fair enough. Going to be impossible to work out the draft order next year with so many compo picks lurking.

Yeah it will.

One thing you can bank on, our priority will be likely to start with a 3.

 

[Tigers of Old]

Does Scully entitle the Dees to pick 1? What are the draft pick compensations exactly?

With Cooneys knee just about shot, the Doggies are going to feel the effect of Wards loss much more than Melbourne at this stage.

Agree.
Just on Cooney. His body language wasn't real good when his knee was mentioned on the Footy Show the other night. He looked really worried.
He' only 25. Be a real shame for him if it curtails his career. Doggies are in some bother.

 

[jb03]

What a joke.

If Ablett is worth 2 first round picks, no way Scully is worth the same.

The picks shouldn't be decided on how much a team is hurt, but on what the player is worth, based on their current level of performance.

Shouldn't pay based on perceived worth or speculation. Just a joke system.

Yeah makes no sense. I tend to think with leysy that Ward is as big a loss, if not bigger than Scully. And Palmer won a Rising Star which Scully didn't so that means compensation is based purely on speculation on a players ability or playing career.

 

[Tigerdog]

Dusty?

If they want to use the picks in 2011 they will be at the end of the first round so we will still pick 14

If they want to use the picks in 2012 onwards Crows, Bulldogs, and Dees get an extra first round after their 1st pick in the year they nominate. They have to nominate before the start of the season they intend to use the pick

Dees also get an extra mid first round pick immediately before the team that finish 8th in the year they nominate (except 2011). Again they have to nominate to use the pick before the season starts

Freo get a pick at the end of the first round whenever they use it (same as the pick we got for Bling)

Foe Tooheys.

Yeah makes no sense. I tend to think with leysy that Ward is as big a loss, if not bigger than Scully. And Palmer won a Rising Star which Scully didn't so that means compensation is based purely on speculation on a players ability or playing career.

It also depends on the size of their contract offered by the new club.

 

[Tigerbob]

Yeah makes no sense. I tend to think with leysy that Ward is as big a loss, if not bigger than Scully. And Palmer won a Rising Star which Scully didn't so that means compensation is based purely on speculation on a players ability or playing career.

Exactly what I am saying. Pure speculation. Compared to Ward, Scully has shown minimal. Lot of projecting going on here, how's his knee too.

Down right disgrace they got the same Compo as Geelong. Disgrace.

I will reiterate, Callan Ward has shown a heap more and is very underrated around here obviously.

 

[Barnzy]

Exactly what I am saying. Pure speculation. Compared to Ward, Scully has shown minimal.

Not really. Hard to directly compare a 2nd and 4th year player but Scully is projecting well ahead of Ward at the same age, easily.

 

[Tigerbob]

Not really. Hard to directly compare a 2nd and 4th year player but Scully is projecting well ahead of Ward, easily.

In what way? Fantasy land?

Output from Ward from day one outweighs Scully.

One or two performances from Tom doesn't change Ward is the better player at this point in time.

Scully "should" "could" "may" be better, but all I am saying is the Bulldogs will be hurting more. Ward can get his own football and support the other mids. They will miss him.

 

[jb03]

In what way? Fantasy land?

Output from Ward from day one outweighs Scully.

One or two performances from Tom doesn't change Ward is the better player at this point in time.

Scully "should" "could" "may" be better, but all I am saying is the Bulldogs will be hurting more. Ward can get his own football and support the other mids. They will miss him.

They really missed Harbrow this year too the Doggies - new teams have been bad for them.

 

[Barnzy]

Output from Ward from day one outweighs Scully.

How so?

One or two performances from Tom doesn't change Ward is the better player at this point in time.

I don't think there's much of a difference now, if at all. I guess you disagree. Think with a good preseason and no injures Scully flies by him probably even with a tight tag over at GWS. That's right. Scully will also be the first one tagged not Ward. For a reason.

Scully "should" "could" "may" be better, but all I am saying is the Bulldogs will be hurting more. Ward can get his own football and support the other mids. They will miss him.

Scully can get his own football too. Don't see your point. Both clubs will be hurting but Melbourne lost the much better prospect and were rewarded as such. Compensation rules are based off mainly contract amount hence why Melbourne are getting the maximum reward. Scully on 6 mil.

 

[TigerForce]

Compensation rules are based off mainly contract amount hence why Melbourne are getting the maximum reward. Scully on 6 mil.

I'd say that team performance would also be a factor. Bottom club compared to a finalist.