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Coaches votes- 2013

Odd votes. Had we not shanked two of those numerous shanks the bulk of the votes would have been RFC players.
 
lukeanddad said:
Wow. Did we lose by 90 points?
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You'd think at least 50, luke.

Maybe it's an indication that we didn't have to do much to win. And then we did even less. We were well off IMO.
 
Dyer'ere said:
You'd think at least 50, luke.

Maybe it's an indication that we didn't have to do much to win. And then we did even less. We were well off IMO.
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Yeah agree. Well beaten. If we had kicked a bit straighter we would have, well stolen it is too strong, but we would have found a way to win when we didn't play well. I actually found it a bit like a reverse of watching our old annual stirring upset or regular honourable loss when we were a bottom side. We'd play all over a good side, like Carlton did, but still only be a goal or 3 up and often blow it, as Carlton easily could have
 
Carlton pants us 13.8 to 6.10 from 1/4 time....sorry, but no way would the bulk of the votes be RFC way if two shanks managed not to be shanks. The last two weeks against mediocre competition we have played 3 good Qs out of 8 - not the finals preparation coaches would be after. Players need to knuckle down again and play the footy that qualified us for finals in the 1st place, rather than sitting back and waiting for the first week of Sept by which time form will be lost and a quick exit the likely outcome.
 
How the hell didn't Jamesion get a vote.
McLean
Robinson
We're the 3 that turned the game.
 
Six Shirts and a Suit said:
Carlton pants us 13.8 to 6.10 from 1/4 time....
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im not sure, but i think the coaches include the 1st quarter when giving votes.

i think the votes show a little where expectations are now. we lose by 10 points to a side in 9th spot cos we played bad. the blues win by 10 against a side in 5th spot and they have played well.
 
That they do but we were well outplayed for 3 of 4 Qs, thus RFC players would not feature in the votes given they were missing for 75% of the game.
 
GWS vs Richmond
9 Rance (Rich)
8 Martin (Rich)
6 A Edwards (Rich)
4 Conca (Rich)
2 Maric (Rich)
1 Houli (Rich)
 
coach A coach B
Rance Martin
A Edwards Rance
Martin Conca
Maric A Edwards
Conca Houli

Sheeds yay or nay on Houli?
 
Votes in losses:

113 North Melbourne (12)
110 St.Kilda (17)
109 Western Bulldogs (14)
98 Gold Coast (14)
95 GWS (20)
92 Carlton (11)
75 Adelaide (12)
70 West Coast (12)
54 Melbourne (19)
46 Brisbane (11)
35 Port Adelaide (9)
28 Geelong (4)
23 Collingwood (7)
22 Essendon (7)
20 Richmond (7)
19 Fremantle (4), Hawthorn (3)
18 Sydney (5)
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Votes in losses:

113 North Melbourne (12)
110 St.Kilda (17)
109 Western Bulldogs (14)
98 Gold Coast (14)
95 GWS (20)
92 Carlton (11)
75 Adelaide (12)
70 West Coast (12)
54 Melbourne (19)
46 Brisbane (11)
35 Port Adelaide (9)
28 Geelong (4)
23 Collingwood (7)
22 Essendon (7)
20 Richmond (7)
19 Fremantle (4), Hawthorn (3)
18 Sydney (5)
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In that list the top 8 become the bottom 8
 
Essendon vs Richmond
10 Ellis (Rich)
6 A. Edwards (Rich)
6 Jackson (Rich)
6 Martin (Rich)
1 Chaplin (Rich)
1 Hibberd (Ess)
 
Season totals:

Rank Player Vt Ma VM AVMa AFLRank
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1st Martin, Dustin 58 22 11 2.64 eq 17th
2nd Cotchin, Trent 52 21 8 2.48 24th
3rd Jackson, Daniel 46 22 8 2.09 27th
4th Deledio, Brett 42 22 7 1.91 eq 33rd
5th Ellis, Brandon 29 20 6 1.45 eq 64th
6th Rance, Alex 28 22 5 1.27 eq 66th
7th Houli, Bachar 21 20 6 1.05 eq 96th
8th Conca, Reece 19 16 5 1.19 eq105th
9th Riewoldt, Jack 19 21 6 0.90 eq105th
10th Vickery, Tyrone 16 20 4 0.80 eq120th
11th Vlastuin, Nick 14 17 2 0.82 eq138th
12th Chaplin, Troy 13 21 3 0.62 eq149th
13th Edwards, Aaron 12 8 2 1.50 eq154th
14th King, Jake 8 17 2 0.47 eq193rd
15th Maric, Ivan 8 19 3 0.42 eq193rd
16th Edwards, Shane 6 19 3 0.32 eq224th
17th Tuck, Shane 4 10 1 0.40 eq257th
18th Foley, Nathan 4 16 1 0.25 eq257th
19th Petterd, Ricky 3 11 1 0.27 eq280th
20th White, Matt 3 16 2 0.19 eq280th
21st Morris, Steven 2 21 1 0.10 eq302nd
22nd Grigg, Shaun 2 22 1 0.09 eq302nd
23rd Knights, Chris 1 5 1 0.20 eq336th
24th Newman, Chris 1 18 1 0.06 eq336th
25th Griffiths, Ben 0 1 - - eq367th
Helbig, Brad 0 1 - - eq367th
McDonough, Matt 0 1 - - eq367th
Lonergan, Sam 0 2 - - eq367th
Dea, Matt 0 3 - - eq367th
Arnot, Matthew 0 4 - - eq367th
Astbury, David 0 5 - - eq367th
Nahas, Robin 0 6 - - eq367th
Stephenson, Orren 0 6 - - eq367th
Grimes, Dylan 0 8 - - eq367th
Batchelor, Jake 0 9 - - eq367th
McGuane, Luke 0 12 - - eq367th
 
Good post LTRTR

The top 4 in Martin Cotchin Jacko and Lids would all have a case to ask why they didn't make the AA top 40 given the coaches voted them as being in the top 40.

Interesting to see how this list stacks up to the clubs B&F.
 
year of the tiger said:
Good post LTRTR

The top 4 in Martin Cotchin Jacko and Lids would all have a case to ask why they didn't make the AA top 40 given the coaches voted them as being in the top 40.

Interesting to see how this list stacks up to the clubs B&F.
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I was thinking the other day, that coaches should pick the all Australian team. Similar voting system, via position(forward, centre, back, ruck) Exclude them from including their own players.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Season totals:

Rank Player Vt Ma VM AVMa AFLRank
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1st Martin, Dustin 58 22 11 2.64 eq 17th
2nd Cotchin, Trent 52 21 8 2.48 24th
3rd Jackson, Daniel 46 22 8 2.09 27th
4th Deledio, Brett 42 22 7 1.91 eq 33rd
5th Ellis, Brandon 29 20 6 1.45 eq 64th
6th Rance, Alex 28 22 5 1.27 eq 66th
7th Houli, Bachar 21 20 6 1.05 eq 96th
8th Conca, Reece 19 16 5 1.19 eq105th
9th Riewoldt, Jack 19 21 6 0.90 eq105th
10th Vickery, Tyrone 16 20 4 0.80 eq120th
11th Vlastuin, Nick 14 17 2 0.82 eq138th
12th Chaplin, Troy 13 21 3 0.62 eq149th
13th Edwards, Aaron 12 8 2 1.50 eq154th
14th King, Jake 8 17 2 0.47 eq193rd
15th Maric, Ivan 8 19 3 0.42 eq193rd
16th Edwards, Shane 6 19 3 0.32 eq224th
17th Tuck, Shane 4 10 1 0.40 eq257th
18th Foley, Nathan 4 16 1 0.25 eq257th
19th Petterd, Ricky 3 11 1 0.27 eq280th
20th White, Matt 3 16 2 0.19 eq280th
21st Morris, Steven 2 21 1 0.10 eq302nd
22nd Grigg, Shaun 2 22 1 0.09 eq302nd
23rd Knights, Chris 1 5 1 0.20 eq336th
24th Newman, Chris 1 18 1 0.06 eq336th
25th Griffiths, Ben 0 1 - - eq367th
Helbig, Brad 0 1 - - eq367th
McDonough, Matt 0 1 - - eq367th
Lonergan, Sam 0 2 - - eq367th
Dea, Matt 0 3 - - eq367th
Arnot, Matthew 0 4 - - eq367th
Astbury, David 0 5 - - eq367th
Nahas, Robin 0 6 - - eq367th
Stephenson, Orren 0 6 - - eq367th
Grimes, Dylan 0 8 - - eq367th
Batchelor, Jake 0 9 - - eq367th
McGuane, Luke 0 12 - - eq367th
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Striking similarity to our own PREmier Fighting Tiger poll.
 
thanks lee2. would it be possible to see last year's results as well for comparison. i reckon we'd have a few changes and a more even spread.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Do you think maybe some people wait for the coaches' votes to come out before voting on PRE?
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Comparing the timing of the coaches votes and the voting on PRE, it would seem not.

I think it would be fascinating to compare the voting patterns of a secret ballot vs the current open system.
 
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