If nothing is done we won't have to wait until 2030...maybe just until 2021, 2022, 2023.....
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What brand would these be and I will check them out.
By the way, Samsung phones are made in Vietnam, at least 50% of them although LG seem to be made in Korea.
DS
perhaps ‘persuade’ should be ‘encouraged’. Morrison spoke to Trump about this grand idea just prior to announcing it.
Interesting article.
thenewdaily.com.au
China using pandemic distraction to destabilise our region: US
The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has taken advantage of the pandemic distraction to "aggressively" advance its military presence in the South China Sea.
thenewdaily.com.au
Coalition of 116 countries back Australia's push for independent coronavirus inquiry
A group of 54 African nations has joined Australia's push for an inquiry into coronavirus, taking the total number of countries on board to 116.
www.sbs.com.au
The US has joined the pile on too.
Under pressure, China has now agreed to an independent inquiry run by the WHO. However that organisation's credibility has also come under fire after the meek way they handled the crisis in the early stages. There will be questions asked whatever the review says especially as China has just injected a heap more funds into their budget.
China has also agreed to share any vaccine they create globally & have committed $2B towards finding a cure.
They must be aware their international standing has taken a hammering from this. Finally they are acting when the blowtorch is applied.
The mud will stick though.
I see it differently. They don't give a damn what their perceived standing is. They are cashed up to the eyeballs. Nearly every industry relies on them. They manufacture everything. They've dealt with COVID-19 and they've come out the other side.
The US, their main competitor in Global Politics, has, over the last 5 months, self-destructed. Any high regard, standing, the US enjoyed has been severely eroded by Trump and his government. It's been happening for a while but COVID opened the floodgates.
China are in pole position to step into the void being left by the US. While typical western countries like Aus may not welcome it with open arms, there are plenty of Asian, African and Sth American countries who will.
Most likely US instigated who will fight to retain their dominance. But they are on shaky ground internationally. What leader of a country would want to bet on the side of Trump, or a country that can elect a Trump?
Can’t stand Trump (who won’t be around forever) but I’ll stand by America before I’ll allow Australia to be run by the CCP that’s for sure.
I don't quite understand what the WHO were supposed to do, barge into China and start looking around for evidence the virus started there? Would the US allow the WHO to do the same in the USA, or would Australia?
The clear answer is no.
Multilateral agencies must tread carefully and I'm sure it frustrates the hell out of them but that is not a product of how the WHO works, it is a product of international politics.
I trust China as much as I trust the USA which is as much as I trust any regional or global power: not at all.
DS
The clear answer is no.
Multilateral agencies must tread carefully and I'm sure it frustrates the hell out of them but that is not a product of how the WHO works, it is a product of international politics.
I trust China as much as I trust the USA which is as much as I trust any regional or global power: not at all.
DS
Why Labor can't be trusted on China
I’m afraid it is an epochal stain that will keep it from power for decades. Labor cannot be trusted with China. Kevin Rudd is the exemplar: Former Labor Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has accused Scott Morrison of exposing primary producers to extra risk by taking the lead against China on a...
www.macrobusiness.com.au
Both sides of politics are in bed with China particularly when it comes to donations, influence and the promotion of free trade and other agreements between the two countries. The LNP has a CCP operative in federal parliament for Christ's sake.
Morrison is getting some international traction on the independent inquiry into the genesis of Corona, (which will achieve squat but OK) so good for him. But just wait, you'll continue to see business deals done at the top end of town with China in the next few years with the tacit approval of all governments, state/federal Lib/Labour. Money talks.
Longer term we are still screwed given the US steadily abrogating its regional responsibilities, a process that was happening before Trump but which is now accelerating given his administrations lack of interest in anything but feeding Trump's massive ego and scamming as much as they possibly can while they can.
What's the balance? We want to sell minerals to them, or do we? We have a hundred billion dollar hole in the economy to fill if we don't. We want cheap chinese goods, or do we? Consumers are selfish - we want good things cheap. Besides, supply chains in technology and manufacturing mean we'll always be buying goods that have some Chinese input.
And strategically - how do we stay independent in a world that will be increasingly dominated by China? It's not as simple as Labour vs Liberal. The Libs signed a free trade agreement with China in 2015.
Morrison is getting some international traction on the independent inquiry into the genesis of Corona, (which will achieve squat but OK) so good for him. But just wait, you'll continue to see business deals done at the top end of town with China in the next few years with the tacit approval of all governments, state/federal Lib/Labour. Money talks.
Longer term we are still screwed given the US steadily abrogating its regional responsibilities, a process that was happening before Trump but which is now accelerating given his administrations lack of interest in anything but feeding Trump's massive ego and scamming as much as they possibly can while they can.
What's the balance? We want to sell minerals to them, or do we? We have a hundred billion dollar hole in the economy to fill if we don't. We want cheap chinese goods, or do we? Consumers are selfish - we want good things cheap. Besides, supply chains in technology and manufacturing mean we'll always be buying goods that have some Chinese input.
And strategically - how do we stay independent in a world that will be increasingly dominated by China? It's not as simple as Labour vs Liberal. The Libs signed a free trade agreement with China in 2015.
All these points are very valid antman.
Still, it doesn't mean that the CCP aren't a bunch of totalitarian and corrupt *smile* though.
Yeah, its depressing and scary. Tiananmen was really when hope for democracy in China was snuffed out. Now we have the dystopia of physical/virtual surveillance to control populations combined with absolute punishment for those who disobey, plus rampant corruption and robber baron capitalism. Worst of all possible worlds.
Someone had to call for an independent inquiry and it wasn't America, Trump's rhetoric calling it the Whuan and China virus is anything but independent and shows no diplomacy at all.
As for China, what do they have to fear from an "independent" inquiry?, a lot apparently.
The odds are if you are prepared to stand up to a bully you are likely to get hurt, does that mean we should not stand up?
www.theage.com.au
As for China, what do they have to fear from an "independent" inquiry?, a lot apparently.
The odds are if you are prepared to stand up to a bully you are likely to get hurt, does that mean we should not stand up?
No longer a joke: Why Australia's COVID-19 inquiry campaign won the day
The uppity island nation of 25 million campaigning for an independent inquiry infuriated Beijing, but effective diplomacy got it over the line and saved face.
Interesting take on the Barley Tariff issue we have with China.
www.theage.com.au
'Carefully laid trap'? Why is China imposing tariffs on our barley (and what's a tariff)?
China has put an 80 per cent tariff on our barley exports for five years. Why barley? Why now?
refer below:The irony of China complaining about dumping (even though it’s likely the claim is *smile*).Interesting take on the Barley Tariff issue we have with China.
'Carefully laid trap'? Why is China imposing tariffs on our barley (and what's a tariff)?
China has put an 80 per cent tariff on our barley exports for five years. Why barley? Why now?
Ask anyone who works in the Australian steel or timber industry about Chinese dumping
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