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LeeToRainesToRoach said:
Average for the season is 24.33, yesterday was 23.35. So it does make a big difference.

Reckon Bolton would've wanted Thomas out there as he helps to keep them competitive.

After 3.5 years they're still paring back after bringing in a heap of early-20's list-cloggers and ditching them again. Fasolo, Lang, Phillips, Lobbe, Plowman, Garlett, Gibbons, Goddard, Kennedy, Setterfield, Macreadie, Newman all arrived ready to play, and all have question marks over their heads to some degree. Even the big money signing McGovern, who appears to be made out of tissue paper. Passes conceded to Docherty, Liam Jones, Thomas and probably Marchbank.

The list of tried-and-failed retreads who've already left in Bolton's time is eye-watering, and much longer.

Too many retreads adding little, but above all else, the kids still haven't been taught how to play. Cripps won the b&f before Bolton got there.

And to think there are still a few Carlton fans towing the 'patience' line. They've been hoodwinked.

On the money LTRTR
 
jb03 said:
The list of tried-and-failed retreads who've already left in Bolton's time is eye-watering, and much longer.

Do you have a list of them Lee?

This first group departed when Bolton arrived. No cuplability, obviously.

Left when Bolton was appointed:

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2008 2015 Judd, Chris - 24 West Coast
2009 2015 Warnock, Robert - 22 Fremantle
2015 2015 Fields, Tom (R) - 22 mature age
2011 2015 Henderson, Lachie - 21 Brisbane
2004 2015 Carrazzo, Andrew - 20 Geelong RL
2012 2015 Bell, Tom - 20 mature age
2015 2015 Russell, Fraser (R) - 22 mature age


These departed during Bolton's time (BG = games under Bolton):

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2014 2016 Wood, Cameron (R) - 27 Brisbane/Collingwood
2014 2016 Everitt, Andrejs 13 25 Bulldogs/Sydney
2015 2016 Tutt, Jason 1 23 Bulldogs
2015 2016 Whiley, Mark 1 22 GWS
2007 2016 Jamison, Michael 5 20 mature age
2010 2016 Tuohy, Zach 22 20 Ireland
2015 2016 *smile*, Matthew - 20 mature age

2017 2017 Palmer, Rhys 1 28 Fremantle/GWS
2012 2018 Rowe, Sam 48 24 Sydney RL
2017 2017 Smedts, Billie 9 24 Geelong
2016 2017 Korcheck, Matt (R) - 24 USA
2016 2017 Gorringe, Daniel 4 23 Gold Coast
2014 2017 Sheehan, Ciaran (R) 2 23 Ireland
2016 2017 Sumner, Liam 20 22 GWS
2016 2017 Gallucci, Andrew (R) - 22 mature age
2008 2017 Armfield, Dennis 20 21 mature age
2010 2017 White, Simon 28 21 mature age
2015 2017 Boekhorst, Blaine 14 21 mature age
2015 2017 Jaksch, Kristian 1 20 GWS


2017 2018 Silvagni, Alex (R) 7 29 Fremantle
2016 2018 Wright, Matthew 65 26 Adelaide
2018 2018 Mullett, Aaron 13 26 North Melbourne
2018 2018 O'Shea, Cameron 11 26 Port Adelaide
2018 2018 Shaw, Matt (R) 2 26 Gold Coast
2016 2018 Lamb, Jed 44 23 Sydney/GWS
2016 2018 Kerridge, Sam 42 22 Adelaide
2018 2018 McDaid, Cillian (R) - 20 Ireland


And these remain:

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2018 Lobbe, Matthew 8 29 Port Adelaide
2014 Thomas, Dale 66 26 Collingwood
2019 Newman, Nic 9 26 Sydney
2019 Fasolo, Alex 3 26 Collingwood
2015 Jones, Liam 44 24 Bulldogs
2016 Phillips, Andrew 25 24 GWS
2019 McGovern, Andrew 9 24 Adelaide
2019 Gibbons, Michael (R) 11 23 mature age
2018 Lang, Darcy 12 22 Geelong
2019 Goddard, Hugh - 22 St.Kilda
2019 Deluca, Josh (R) - 22 Fremantle
2019 Owies, Matt (R) - 22 mature age
2011 Curnow, Ed 66 21 Adelaide RL
2016 Plowman, Lachie 63 21 GWS
2018 Garlett, Jarrod 13 21 Gold Coast
2019 Setterfield, Will 7 21 GWS
2014 Docherty, Sam 44 20 Brisbane
2010 Casboult, Levi 61 20 mature age

2017 Marchbank, Caleb 37 20 GWS
2017 Pickett, Jarrod 17 20 GWS
2018 Kennedy, Matthew 14 20 GWS


Explains why their senior core is so thin.
 
Harry said:

Officially gone. With so much denial, it'll be interesting to see if Brad Scott does make the move.

I always laugh at the hypocritical comments some/most make.

Cartoon BF already has a "Thank you Bolts" thread with most saying thankyou blah...blah...blah... when in reality they'd be happy to see him go.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
This first group departed when Bolton arrived. No cuplability, obviously.

Left when Bolton was appointed:

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2008 2015 Judd, Chris - 24 West Coast
2009 2015 Warnock, Robert - 22 Fremantle
2015 2015 Fields, Tom (R) - 22 mature age
2011 2015 Henderson, Lachie - 21 Brisbane
2004 2015 Carrazzo, Andrew - 20 Geelong RL
2012 2015 Bell, Tom - 20 mature age
2015 2015 Russell, Fraser (R) - 22 mature age


These departed during Bolton's time (BG = games under Bolton):

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2014 2016 Wood, Cameron (R) - 27 Brisbane/Collingwood
2014 2016 Everitt, Andrejs 13 25 Bulldogs/Sydney
2015 2016 Tutt, Jason 1 23 Bulldogs
2015 2016 Whiley, Mark 1 22 GWS
2007 2016 Jamison, Michael 5 20 mature age
2010 2016 Tuohy, Zach 22 20 Ireland
2015 2016 *smile*, Matthew - 20 mature age

2017 2017 Palmer, Rhys 1 28 Fremantle/GWS
2012 2018 Rowe, Sam 48 24 Sydney RL
2017 2017 Smedts, Billie 9 24 Geelong
2016 2017 Korcheck, Matt (R) - 24 USA
2016 2017 Gorringe, Daniel 4 23 Gold Coast
2014 2017 Sheehan, Ciaran (R) 2 23 Ireland
2016 2017 Sumner, Liam 20 22 GWS
2016 2017 Gallucci, Andrew (R) - 22 mature age
2008 2017 Armfield, Dennis 20 21 mature age
2010 2017 White, Simon 28 21 mature age
2015 2017 Boekhorst, Blaine 14 21 mature age
2015 2017 Jaksch, Kristian 1 20 GWS


2017 2018 Silvagni, Alex (R) 7 29 Fremantle
2016 2018 Wright, Matthew 65 26 Adelaide
2018 2018 Mullett, Aaron 13 26 North Melbourne
2018 2018 O'Shea, Cameron 11 26 Port Adelaide
2018 2018 Shaw, Matt (R) 2 26 Gold Coast
2016 2018 Lamb, Jed 44 23 Sydney/GWS
2016 2018 Kerridge, Sam 42 22 Adelaide
2018 2018 McDaid, Cillian (R) - 20 Ireland


And these remain:

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2018 Lobbe, Matthew 8 29 Port Adelaide
2014 Thomas, Dale 66 26 Collingwood
2019 Newman, Nic 9 26 Sydney
2019 Fasolo, Alex 3 26 Collingwood
2015 Jones, Liam 44 24 Bulldogs
2016 Phillips, Andrew 25 24 GWS
2019 McGovern, Andrew 9 24 Adelaide
2019 Gibbons, Michael (R) 11 23 mature age
2018 Lang, Darcy 12 22 Geelong
2019 Goddard, Hugh - 22 St.Kilda
2019 Deluca, Josh (R) - 22 Fremantle
2019 Owies, Matt (R) - 22 mature age
2011 Curnow, Ed 66 21 Adelaide RL
2016 Plowman, Lachie 63 21 GWS
2018 Garlett, Jarrod 13 21 Gold Coast
2019 Setterfield, Will 7 21 GWS
2014 Docherty, Sam 44 20 Brisbane
2010 Casboult, Levi 61 20 mature age

2017 Marchbank, Caleb 37 20 GWS
2017 Pickett, Jarrod 17 20 GWS
2018 Kennedy, Matthew 14 20 GWS


Explains why their senior core is so thin.

Qu LTRTR - what’s the difference with those players in yellow?
 
TigerForce said:
Officially gone. With so much denial, it'll be interesting to see if Brad Scott does make the move.

I always laugh at the hypocritical comments some/most make.

Cartoon BF already has a "Thank you Bolts" thread with most saying thankyou blah...blah...blah... when in reality they'd be happy to see him go.
Brad Scott....gee i hope so. No coincidence that Norf started winning when he left...
 
So who p!ssed on the green shoots ....................................


Poor Chuckles was never gonna be tough enough to run his race at Carlton.

He now knows the difference between a well run machine at Hawthorn to Carlton.

Plenty of others with the power at Carlton FC apart from Bolton.
 
God I hope that caracella doesn't leave..
 
Tiger17 said:
Brad Scott....gee i hope so. No coincidence that Norf started winning when he left...

I've heard some interesting comments from norf players on this. Goldstein on Sunday Footy Show even (indirectly) hinted Shaw was better than Scott.

David Teague is taking over. Let's hope they beat Brisbane at the Dump this week as it'll help us.
 
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/report-carlton-tweaks-terms-of-brendon-bolton-contract-to-lock-him-in-as-longterm-coach/news-story/704f90c48cf664011694ed9c095d8289

>:D I hope Silvagni is locked in to a contract stronger than Bolton's deal. Hardly lasted half its term.
 
Nice guy, but a speech like that shows how deluded a person like him is. He comes across like a 17yo schoolboy who was given a free managerial role in a company.
 
LeeToRainesToRoach said:
This first group departed when Bolton arrived. No cuplability, obviously.

Left when Bolton was appointed:

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2008 2015 Judd, Chris - 24 West Coast
2009 2015 Warnock, Robert - 22 Fremantle
2015 2015 Fields, Tom (R) - 22 mature age
2011 2015 Henderson, Lachie - 21 Brisbane
2004 2015 Carrazzo, Andrew - 20 Geelong RL
2012 2015 Bell, Tom - 20 mature age
2015 2015 Russell, Fraser (R) - 22 mature age


These departed during Bolton's time (BG = games under Bolton):

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2014 2016 Wood, Cameron (R) - 27 Brisbane/Collingwood
2014 2016 Everitt, Andrejs 13 25 Bulldogs/Sydney
2015 2016 Tutt, Jason 1 23 Bulldogs
2015 2016 Whiley, Mark 1 22 GWS
2007 2016 Jamison, Michael 5 20 mature age
2010 2016 Tuohy, Zach 22 20 Ireland
2015 2016 *smile*, Matthew - 20 mature age

2017 2017 Palmer, Rhys 1 28 Fremantle/GWS
2012 2018 Rowe, Sam 48 24 Sydney RL
2017 2017 Smedts, Billie 9 24 Geelong
2016 2017 Korcheck, Matt (R) - 24 USA
2016 2017 Gorringe, Daniel 4 23 Gold Coast
2014 2017 Sheehan, Ciaran (R) 2 23 Ireland
2016 2017 Sumner, Liam 20 22 GWS
2016 2017 Gallucci, Andrew (R) - 22 mature age
2008 2017 Armfield, Dennis 20 21 mature age
2010 2017 White, Simon 28 21 mature age
2015 2017 Boekhorst, Blaine 14 21 mature age
2015 2017 Jaksch, Kristian 1 20 GWS


2017 2018 Silvagni, Alex (R) 7 29 Fremantle
2016 2018 Wright, Matthew 65 26 Adelaide
2018 2018 Mullett, Aaron 13 26 North Melbourne
2018 2018 O'Shea, Cameron 11 26 Port Adelaide
2018 2018 Shaw, Matt (R) 2 26 Gold Coast
2016 2018 Lamb, Jed 44 23 Sydney/GWS
2016 2018 Kerridge, Sam 42 22 Adelaide
2018 2018 McDaid, Cillian (R) - 20 Ireland


And these remain:

Arrv Dprt Player BG AgeArrvd Previous club
--------------------------------------------------------
2018 Lobbe, Matthew 8 29 Port Adelaide
2014 Thomas, Dale 66 26 Collingwood
2019 Newman, Nic 9 26 Sydney
2019 Fasolo, Alex 3 26 Collingwood
2015 Jones, Liam 44 24 Bulldogs
2016 Phillips, Andrew 25 24 GWS
2019 McGovern, Andrew 9 24 Adelaide
2019 Gibbons, Michael (R) 11 23 mature age
2018 Lang, Darcy 12 22 Geelong
2019 Goddard, Hugh - 22 St.Kilda
2019 Deluca, Josh (R) - 22 Fremantle
2019 Owies, Matt (R) - 22 mature age
2011 Curnow, Ed 66 21 Adelaide RL
2016 Plowman, Lachie 63 21 GWS
2018 Garlett, Jarrod 13 21 Gold Coast
2019 Setterfield, Will 7 21 GWS
2014 Docherty, Sam 44 20 Brisbane
2010 Casboult, Levi 61 20 mature age

2017 Marchbank, Caleb 37 20 GWS
2017 Pickett, Jarrod 17 20 GWS
2018 Kennedy, Matthew 14 20 GWS


Explains why their senior core is so thin.

out of curiosity, what is the average percentage of players on an AFL club list that started their careers at another club? and where does Carlton rank on this list? 1st?
 
As said, he seems a really nice person, but that does not make an AFL coach. Have to feel for him even though a Carlton person.

Not sure it is all his fault either.

Could be poor recruiting and a lack of cattle on the paddock, which may have been his problem.

Whatever, he has paid the price for poor performances over a long period of time.