if it was one of my family and he got out he would end up with a .270 shell right between the eyes.mark my words. and ya know what it would be justice you know the thing that few victims families ever get in the stuffed up excuse of a legal system we have.Six Pack said:
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capital punishment..ivan milat..j.knight.p.dupas..and any other scum
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Liverpool said:
Of course they shouldn't get a choice, but spending a lifetime in jail would be, in many people's eyes a greater punishment than a lethal injection.
Liverpool said:
So what 100 (and surely you can name them and their crimes), and that's the reason for overcrowding? Funny stuff Liverpool, very entertaining. Taking 100 people out of a jail system that increases in population by around 800 a year will do nothing.
Liverpool said:
How would you know? From the way you described the company you work for it didn't sound like a mental health ward, or crisis team, or a criminal psychologist's office.
the claw said:
Then you'd go to jail and your family would suffer again. Great justice for them.
Disco08 said:
You would have less of an argument from me Disco, if jail was JAIL.....cell, window with bars, bed, toilet, bread & water....and that's it.
I would sympathise with your views much more then.
However, jail is not punishment...but "rehabilitation"....and for people who have committed the crimes I have mentioned ad-nauseum, I am not interested in their rehabilitation one iota.
For someone like Knight being able to study for a degree tells me that jail is not JAIL as it should be and therefore for someone who took multiple people's lives, then the needle is a far more worthy punishment for this cretin than him sitting there studying to get a degree.
Disco08 said:
If I had the time, I reckon I could come up with more than 100 for my "flick the switch" list.
Taking 100 people out of the jail system is better than 100 in the jail system.
Disco08 said:
Well, you tell me then Disco.....what research has been conducted on Knight that has prevented future crimes?
This is the tact you have taken....so time to back it up.
I reckon it's nothing....but if you know something I don't, then I'm all
Liverpool said:
As I said, I agree that people who commit these crimes do not deserve these luxuries, but that doesn't make the death penalty the answer.
Liverpool said:
I can tell you that all people convicted of violent crimes and in particular homicides are subject to regular psychological testing while incarcerated. If Knight doesn't provide any breakthrough's, maybe the next person will, or the next, or the next. If you just execute them all you have no chance whatsoever of learning anything.
the claw said:
Possibly. Do you think everyone that lives in Australia will ever be able to agree on what constitutes justice in every single case?
It seems pretty easy for people to say that they should be executed. I think it would be a totally different kettle of fish if you were the one who had to act as executioner.
There is a reason that we don't have capital punishment in this country and as loud as you want to shout and whine about it, it has nothing to do with being soft or lenient.
There is a reason that we don't have capital punishment in this country and as loud as you want to shout and whine about it, it has nothing to do with being soft or lenient.
I think you are all missing the point.
Society has an obligation to set an example for how it wants its citizens to behave.
If Society thinks it acceptable to execute people, then killing becomes an OK thing to do.
I believe Society should demonstrate its abhorrence of murder by refusing to condone legal murder. We should not lower our standards no matter how high the temptation.
Society has an obligation to set an example for how it wants its citizens to behave.
If Society thinks it acceptable to execute people, then killing becomes an OK thing to do.
I believe Society should demonstrate its abhorrence of murder by refusing to condone legal murder. We should not lower our standards no matter how high the temptation.
That little girl who was starved to death by her parents had her rights to live taken away by 2 evil people.NO to capital punishment?Give me a break.
This is a list of over 120 people that have been sentenced to the death penalty only to be acquitted due to being wrongly convicted. Note that in the US it can take over 30 years for the death sentence to be carried out and this is the only reason some of these innocent people were not murdered by authorities acting on the laws of their state.
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
You kill them, their pain ends in moments. If they spent 30-60 years in a concrete cell for the rest of their lives, they have a life of misery and pain. This is what they deserve (if they are found guilty of course - all still alleged - just doing this to keep Rosy outta trouble with the legal peoples).
Well id rather my tax dollars go towards the child in welfare than those 2 sitting in a cell.They had no excuse.Give up the child if they couldnt cope.They had a choice the child didnt.Tiger74 said:
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Dogs deserve to be put out of there misery, these people (if found guilty) are not worthy of sharing a kennel with a dog. Happy for my tax dollars to "maintain the pain", and gives these guys a life of more misery than they inflicted on this girl (allegedly).
Tiger74 said:
Agreed 74.
I'm against it.
The death penalty does no one any good whatsoever IMO.
I was watching 60 minutes over here on the weekend:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/16/60minutes/main3512453.shtml
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/16/60minutes/main3512453.shtml
CptJonno2Madcow2005 said:
Agree with you all the way Captain! :clap
Disco08 said:
Disco,
We all know that there have been people who have been found innocent while either on death-row or after they have been executed.
What us "death penalty for scumbags" supporters are saying is that you use a punishment like this where there is NO doubt that you have the correct perp...for example, Julian Knight.
That way, there can't be a mistake, can there?
So where are you going to draw the line Liverpool? Caught on video camera? Because as you'd have seen if you read any of those people's stories, eye witness account, finger print analysis, hair samples, ballistics evidence have all been used as conclusive evidence to arrive at a false verdict. Corruption and incompetence also plays a part in some of these cases so who's to say that methods such as DNA evidence can be trusted? Look at NYT's link, thousands of cases using junk science as critical evidence.
