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Bachar Houli - بشار حولي,
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to settle a few things on this.
1) Basher has not had an issue with fasting during season because either Ramadan was after the H&A or he was failing to get a game. He has however in the past obtained an exemption, so its wrong to say this is not something he will consider. This article pre draft camp covers this decision:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/afl/not-so-fast-when-footy-and-faith-collide/2006/10/04/1159641393272.html
2) Also while he hasn't had the conflict, the Dons were preparing for it in advance. As discussed in the below article, the intention was to slightly modify his program to minimize the distruption, and to follow the learnings obtained from Muslim professional athletes overseas.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/young-bomber-on-fast-track/story-e6frf7kx-1111114433706
Given he is devout, and has been looking into how to manage this for 4 years now, I think its safe to assume he has the info he needs, and our training staff are developing a program that gives both parties what they want.
He has shown a willingness to adjust his training times as required, and has stopped the fast (for the minimum time required) in the past, so IMO this is a massive non-issue.
EDIT - forgot to mention, discussion on the Blues forum, BF Essendon board, and the RL BF board (they were discussing because El Masri was in the same boat), all mentioned Houli had sought and gained permission to break the fast if Essendon made the finals.
1) Basher has not had an issue with fasting during season because either Ramadan was after the H&A or he was failing to get a game. He has however in the past obtained an exemption, so its wrong to say this is not something he will consider. This article pre draft camp covers this decision:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/afl/not-so-fast-when-footy-and-faith-collide/2006/10/04/1159641393272.html
2) Also while he hasn't had the conflict, the Dons were preparing for it in advance. As discussed in the below article, the intention was to slightly modify his program to minimize the distruption, and to follow the learnings obtained from Muslim professional athletes overseas.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/young-bomber-on-fast-track/story-e6frf7kx-1111114433706
Given he is devout, and has been looking into how to manage this for 4 years now, I think its safe to assume he has the info he needs, and our training staff are developing a program that gives both parties what they want.
He has shown a willingness to adjust his training times as required, and has stopped the fast (for the minimum time required) in the past, so IMO this is a massive non-issue.
EDIT - forgot to mention, discussion on the Blues forum, BF Essendon board, and the RL BF board (they were discussing because El Masri was in the same boat), all mentioned Houli had sought and gained permission to break the fast if Essendon made the finals.
He received an exemption for draft camp, and got one in case the dons made the finals. Refutes your claim that he has refused to break the fast at all.
As for this year, given he dealt with the issue previously, why do you think he won't now?
As for this year, given he dealt with the issue previously, why do you think he won't now?
Tiger74 said:
I didn't claim anything and never said he wouldn't. I was just asking the question based on remembering having read somewhere in an article not long after he was drafetd that he did not want to ask for an exemption. Therefore I assumed this was the case. If he is fine with it, then as I said in my previous post, end of discussion.
wayne said:
They booed him when we played them. Just goes to show how moronic they are. Their team wouldnt give him a game when they were gifting games to no hopers ahead of him.
We are playing the bloke and lo-and-nehold he is performing greatly.
Tigers of Old said:
Yep, not bad when the guy steps in as PSD and is as reliable off half back as your Captain - they both spot up a man superbly.
