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Atheism
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evo said:
I find it amazing you think it is a 'silly question' as surely it's an important question! I mean we as a society spend a lot of time and money combatting various forms of evil, so if there is a solution, which your 'man is good' statement seems to imply, I would like to hear it!
I have always thought that it was the ones who 'believed' who had all the explaining to do as they had arrived at some sort of understanding of the world. As an atheist I really don't have to explain anything, as really, none of it makes sense to me at all.
It doesn't imply any solution. You asked me to choose between two extremes.I reluctantly chose 'good'Djevv said:
although as I've repeatedly said all these concepts are relative.
There is no absolute solution,sorry to break the news to you.
" just be good to you mother."
Six Pack said:
And that sums up the crux of your stance, it seems to me. It's a difficult topic, that is difficult to make a decision on, so you will avoid making any decision by simply not believing in anything. That way you don't have to justify or explain your internal stance.
Tiger74 said:
A brief paraphrased summary -
Satan was created by God, you are correct. Satan was one of God's most powerful angels too. Correct again. God gave his angels the choice of whether to follow Him or not, similar to the way He has with us. Satan was jealous of God's power and worship and wanted it for himself so he rebelled against God convincing a third of God's angels to go with him. Satan's lust for power and worship is never satisfied though and he saw how great God's love for man was so he attacked God's most treasured creation, hoping to turn him against God. He started with the first man and woman and went from there and due to man's similar lust for selfishness and things of this world, Satan has been very successful in his mission. But, as with us all, Satan will be judged one day and unlike any who believe in Jesus as God's son, he will suffer eternal punishment in Hell, which was actually designed for Satan and his angels.
I hope this helps but feel free to ask any questions.
evo said:
It was a question for you. I don't believe that evil on Earth is absolute as we all have a chance to reject evil (sin or wrongdoing - whatever you want to call it) whilst on Earth and accept Jesus' gift of forgiveness. Is evil absolute after death? I guess it is as, after death and judgment, there is no escape from Hell and an eternity of suffering for our evil deeds. Unless we have repented and asked God's forgiveness in this life.
Six Pack said:
This is a personal view of yours that has no Biblical backing at all. The only way that you believe in Satan is through him being revealed to us through the Bible and yet your stance on him is contradictory to the clear message that the source of your information gives us.
Six Pack said:
And this is where the problem comes from.
- The only reason we know of Satan is from what we have read in the Bible.
- You don't believe the words of the Bible and in fact admit that your opinion on Satan has no Biblical backing at all.
- Yet you have formed an opinion of what Satan is. You have formed an opinion on something that you only know of from a source that you don't believe in.
That doesn't make sense to me.
