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Atheism

Harry said:
You guys still here ?

Anyone come up with the answer to creation yet ? How did 'stuff' appear ?

'Stuff' is just a concept made-up by our limited brains. It has no reality.
 
someone was travelling through that enlightened part of the world called the southern USA recently,and upon entering a small town saw the welcoming sign which read"The devil is not welcomed in this town"
 
barty boy said:
someone was travelling through that enlightened part of the world called the southern USA recently,and upon entering a small town saw the welcoming sign which read"The devil is not welcomed in this town"

This reminds me of something. How would most Christians react is Jesus decided to rock on down for the second coming as a gay black woman?

1) A woman cannot head the largest Christian congregation

2) A gay person cannot head most Christian congregations

3) Being black is enough to get the rednecks out with the shotties to send that thar jeeeses back to war she came from.
 
Tiger74 said:
This reminds me of something. How would most Christians react is Jesus decided to rock on down for the second coming as a gay black woman?

1) A woman cannot head the largest Christian congregation

2) A gay person cannot head most Christian congregations

3) Being black is enough to get the rednecks out with the shotties to send that thar jeeeses back to war she came from.

Jesus was jewish and somehow it ended-up that jews have been persecuted by Christians ever since.

A way would be found to persecute gay black women if that's how jesus appeared!
 
Six Pack said:
8.11.07

Still no sign of gods.

2 Peter 3:3-4

3First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4They will say, "Where is this 'coming' he promised?

You are just fulfilling prophesy Six Pack, that's all. Actually the rest of this chapter of 2 Peter is pretty interesting as well -

Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation." 5But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

8But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.[a]

11Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness.

14So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
 
jayfox said:
35But they deliberately forget that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water.
This is an interesting line.My guess is they idea was gleaned from Thales an early greek philosopher,sometimes regarded as the 'father of science' He believed everything ultimately originated from water.It was the base element of everything.

"Water constituted (ὑπεστήσατο, 'stood under') the principle of all things."

Anyway,Peter has about as much chance of predicting the future as i have of telling you next weeks Tattslotto numbers.
 
evo said:
This is an interesting line.My guess is they idea was gleaned from Thales an early greek philosopher,sometimes regarded as the 'father of science' He believed everything ultimately originated from water.It was the base element of everything.

"Water constituted (ὑπεστήσατο, 'stood under') the principle of all things."

Anyway,Peter has about as much chance of predicting the future as i have of telling you next weeks Tattslotto numbers.

Is God telling you next weeks Tattslotto numbers?
 
Clearly he isn't.Otherwise I'd run down to the newsagent and put in an entry.

So too Peter.
 
evo said:
This is an interesting line.My guess is they idea was gleaned from Thales an early greek philosopher,sometimes regarded as the 'father of science' He believed everything ultimately originated from water.It was the base element of everything.

"Water constituted (ὑπεστήσατο, 'stood under') the principle of all things."

Anyway,Peter has about as much chance of predicting the future as i have of telling you next weeks Tattslotto numbers.

Typical greeks, claiming to be father of everything and the first to do everything.
 
evo said:
Clearly he isn't.Otherwise I'd run down to the newsagent and put in an entry.

So too Peter.

Peter has put in his entry. You just read it.
 
Well he did live 600 odd years before Peter,Harry.

Where do you think Peter got the idea.Don't tell me God, right?
 
jayfox said:
Peter has put in his entry. You just read it.
I just read some vague pontificating,written 2000 years ago.You can read such things in many a book.

Who to believe?
 
evo said:
I just read some vague pontificating,written 2000 years ago.You can read such things in many a book.

Who to believe?

Easy. Believe Jesus. He's the only one who offers to save us through no good work of our own but by grace alone.