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911 Truth Movement
- Thread starter Harry
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Ah Rosy, you're getting sucked in by the theorist M.O. That is keep throwing out questions (which if they could be objective enough they could find themselves) whilst the realist provides an answer to which the theorist throws out another question to which the realist finds the answer. Add salt and repeat.rosy23 said:
KnightersRevenge said:
That's not right at all. Firstly, watch any video of UAL175 and you can see it crashes into the corner of tower 2 and a massive fireball is released outside the building. What creates that fireball KR? There's also evidence from firefighters that a lot fo jet fuel fell to the ground below - ankle deep in some places according to eyewitness report.
The plane also obviously only struck the side of tower 2. All the major support columns are located in the middle of the tower, comprising a massive amount of reinforced steel. The plane did not damage any of these columns.
Now, if most of the fuel ended up outside the building and none of the major columns were damaged by the plane, how did it fall before tower 1 which was struck dead centre?
rosy23 said:
The passport is treated as very doubtful Rosy - that's the point.
In fairness to Disco and Harry, I don't think they're denying the plane attacks, just questioning the role of the US powers that be. There are different levels of scepticism on 911, all based on smelling a rat with the official accounts.
You may laugh but that's typical arrogance of the theorist :roflDisco08 said:
Look, personally as I said I'm tired of doing your research and finding answers to your endless questions. It's safe to say its not getting us anywhere.
All I know is that apparently this man of extraordinary btelligence is responsible for covering up 911
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DEbZqvMu2cQ
There's a difference between callng somethng laughable and laughing at it. Surely you know that Tim.
Here's where ask for examples again. You're ability to blatantly just invent critisism is getting to legendary status mate. You've done my reseach? Where? Endless questions? Example please.
Have you learnt nothing from the Northwoods example? This guy didn't plan the whole thing, he just when along with it (if it's a cover up) where he should have followed JFK's example.
Rather than deflect (I know that's your best trick) maybe you could have a crack at those points? (Not holding my breath).
Here's where ask for examples again. You're ability to blatantly just invent critisism is getting to legendary status mate. You've done my reseach? Where? Endless questions? Example please.
Have you learnt nothing from the Northwoods example? This guy didn't plan the whole thing, he just when along with it (if it's a cover up) where he should have followed JFK's example.
Rather than deflect (I know that's your best trick) maybe you could have a crack at those points? (Not holding my breath).
Disco08 said:
That doesn't mean they had the technical ability to model the effects not in the way we do now. They were using slide rules and look up tables. One of the "features" of the towers that was supposed to allow for "multiple" attacks was the external steel structure. This fell off like cladding and in doing so compromised the integrity of the structure.
Here is an early and independent analysis of the physics: http://web.mit.edu/civenv/wtc/PDFfiles/Chapter%20IV%20Aircraft%20Impact.pdf
Here is later one: http://www.absolutenetsolutions.com/psych/images2/00%20WTC%20Collapse%20-%20Wha%23558C6.pdf
evo said:
Agree, too much of a love fest between those two these days.
Perhaps if we tell Tim that pre-911 Leysy gave us a tip that there would be 5 planes highjacked or that the highjacker of Flight 93 that failed was not a Tasmanian.
Reckon Patsy is getting confused with the last Sherlock telemovie which had a very similar premise.evo said:
Sorry, what "baseless accusations have I made?Disco08 said:
And you are right, I told you I am tiring of discussing this with you, it's getting us nowhere. What's wrong with that?
What's that saying about dong the same thing over and over again but expecting a different outcome? It's a sign of....
You have to keep doing my research. I ask endless questions. I ignore a mass of eyewitnesses that contradicts my opinion. I've asked you to actually back those accusations up but of course you can't.
Anyway, I agree our discourse is going nowhere and is a complete waste of time.
Where did it fall off like cladding KR? I see holes being made but only where the plane hits. That leaves roughly 80% of the outer support structure intact.
Anyway, I agree our discourse is going nowhere and is a complete waste of time.
KnightersRevenge said:
Where did it fall off like cladding KR? I see holes being made but only where the plane hits. That leaves roughly 80% of the outer support structure intact.
Azza said:
Don't know much about what Disco is posting and my comment wasn't in regard to his opinions.
As for Harry I disagree with you. Certainly not the impression I've got from his comments about the hole exit hole shape and size, the lack of plane wreckage and recording it was more likely a bunker missile than a plane, a lack of aviation fuel, lack of debris, said it was impossible a commercial plane could do that kind of damage, just because the OR was said it was a plane doesn't make it true, etc etc. I feel he's actually been quite questioning of a plane being involved.
Disco08 said:
No need to read the reports, read the abstracts and the conclusions if you like, the rest is really just calculations. There are photos.
rosy23 said:
Hmm, you might be right Rosy, although I'm aware of the missile argument given by 911 sceptics. THB I've just been skimming these posts. I was under the impression tho that Harry was saying that he thought the terrorist attacks were real, just facilitated by the US hierarchy.
