The intention of this thread is to discuss the list movements on/off the list, not so much who we'd trade for what player. There's plenty of discussion on that in other threads.
We need to get a better balanced list, as we're about to see a bunch of experienced players drop off over the next year or two.
HINT: If you quote this post, you should be able to modify the table. Alternatively you can make one in excel and paste into a reply.
Formatting of colors is then done via the icon in the post window which looks like a painters palette.
Legend:
Orange = Out of contract as at 5/7/24
Age = As at 9/7/24
Given we're well and truly stinking it up and missing finals, here is my suggestion for overall list movements.
My goal will be to ensure we don't cut too many mature bodies, given the young folks are very inexperienced. We need someone to set standards around the club,
and to shield young bodies from too many injuries/fatigue. We need to try remain competitive, rather than get smashed like North and West Coast have been over
the last couple of years.
Outs:
Retirees: Grimes, Prestia, Naismith
Delisting: Cumberland, Dow, Coulthard, Colina (Cat B)
Tradeable: Martin, Baker, Graham (Also free agent),
Re-signing: Blight, Gray, Smith, M Rioli, Blight, Ross, McIntosh, Lefau, Ralphsmith, Green (Rookie), Hayes-Brown (Cat B)
Last Chance options: Pickett, Coulthard
Pickett I would likely consider signing as an inside mid insurance, assuming he doesn't get locked up. I think having him around the club helps our younger indigenous players as a mentor.
Coulthard, a 23yo small forward who's hit and miss at VFL level. I'm not sure how much scope he has at AFL level, and given the number of smalls competing for positions, I don't see him as a priority.
We have 21 currently potentially going. We're not going to get quality replacements for all of them in the draft or via free agency, so I wouldn't cut super hard this year, given we'll be crap next year too and will need some space to recruit in that draft. By retaining Pickett, we have 7 leaving the club via delisting or retirement, and 3 potentially leaving either via trade or free agency.
Baker is expendable, and we won't get better value for him right now.
Graham is injured too frequently, and taking a space we will need for a developing mid (McAuliffe for example).
Martin could return if he wants, but I don't know if he does. I'm not sure we'd get much of a return on field, but off field another 12 months of mentoring a Smilie or FOS, could be invaluable.
We also have 10 draft picks, which if we wanted to take into the draft, we have to have 10 spots on the main list, I believe before the draft night. Obviously we're hoping to scale back those numbers and move up in the draft, I think the best we could hope for with trades, is 5-6 in the top 30. Fingers crossed.
Net result: That's 10 off the list, including rookies/cat b prior to the draft night.
We need to get a better balanced list, as we're about to see a bunch of experienced players drop off over the next year or two.
HINT: If you quote this post, you should be able to modify the table. Alternatively you can make one in excel and paste into a reply.
Formatting of colors is then done via the icon in the post window which looks like a painters palette.
| Position | 18-22 | 23-25 | 26-28 | 28-30 | 31+ |
| Small Backs | Kaleb Smith | Liam Baker | |||
| Daniel Rioli | |||||
| Medium Backs | Tom Brown | Jayden Short | Nathan Broad | ||
| James Trezise | Nick Vlaustin | ||||
| Key Backs | Jacob Blight | Ben Miller | Dylan Grimes | ||
| Josh Gibcus | Tylar Young | ||||
| Midfielders | Sam Banks | Jack Ross | Jack Graham | Kamdyn McIntosh | Marlion Pickett |
| Thompson Dow | Jacob Hopper | Dion Prestia | |||
| Hugo Ralphsmith | Tim Taranto | ||||
| Kane McAuliffe | |||||
| Tyler Sonsie | |||||
| Small Forwards | Seth Campbell | Shai Bolton | |||
| Judson Clarke | Matt Coulthard | ||||
| Steely Green | Ryan Mansell | ||||
| Maurice Rioli | |||||
| Medium Forwards | Noah Cumberland | Dustin Martin | |||
| Tall Forwards | Jacob Bauer | Noah Balta | Mykelti Lefau | Tom Lynch | |
| Liam Fawcett | Jacob Koschitzke | ||||
| Campbell Gray | Samson Ryan | ||||
| Rucks | Mate Colina (Cat B) | Toby Nankervis | Sam Naismith | ||
| Oliver Hayes-Brown (Cat B) |
Orange = Out of contract as at 5/7/24
Age = As at 9/7/24
Given we're well and truly stinking it up and missing finals, here is my suggestion for overall list movements.
My goal will be to ensure we don't cut too many mature bodies, given the young folks are very inexperienced. We need someone to set standards around the club,
and to shield young bodies from too many injuries/fatigue. We need to try remain competitive, rather than get smashed like North and West Coast have been over
the last couple of years.
Outs:
Retirees: Grimes, Prestia, Naismith
Delisting: Cumberland, Dow, Coulthard, Colina (Cat B)
Tradeable: Martin, Baker, Graham (Also free agent),
Re-signing: Blight, Gray, Smith, M Rioli, Blight, Ross, McIntosh, Lefau, Ralphsmith, Green (Rookie), Hayes-Brown (Cat B)
Last Chance options: Pickett, Coulthard
Pickett I would likely consider signing as an inside mid insurance, assuming he doesn't get locked up. I think having him around the club helps our younger indigenous players as a mentor.
Coulthard, a 23yo small forward who's hit and miss at VFL level. I'm not sure how much scope he has at AFL level, and given the number of smalls competing for positions, I don't see him as a priority.
We have 21 currently potentially going. We're not going to get quality replacements for all of them in the draft or via free agency, so I wouldn't cut super hard this year, given we'll be crap next year too and will need some space to recruit in that draft. By retaining Pickett, we have 7 leaving the club via delisting or retirement, and 3 potentially leaving either via trade or free agency.
Baker is expendable, and we won't get better value for him right now.
Graham is injured too frequently, and taking a space we will need for a developing mid (McAuliffe for example).
Martin could return if he wants, but I don't know if he does. I'm not sure we'd get much of a return on field, but off field another 12 months of mentoring a Smilie or FOS, could be invaluable.
We also have 10 draft picks, which if we wanted to take into the draft, we have to have 10 spots on the main list, I believe before the draft night. Obviously we're hoping to scale back those numbers and move up in the draft, I think the best we could hope for with trades, is 5-6 in the top 30. Fingers crossed.
Net result: That's 10 off the list, including rookies/cat b prior to the draft night.
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