It would certainly make them think, with Daniel Annable to come next year (another potential top 5 pick), how do they get all 3. If Marshall goes into the 20's and Ashcroft is bid at 3 or 4, they will be fine. If clubs force them to pay top $, then it becomes a big choice for them.
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2024 Draft Thread
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It would certainly make them think, with Daniel Annable to come next year (another potential top 5 pick), how do they get all 3. If Marshall goes into the 20's and Ashcroft is bid at 3 or 4, they will be fine. If clubs force them to pay top $, then it becomes a big choice for them.
Well since '21 yes when the updated rules were put in place. He had heavy concussion and memory loss. Said he didn't believe Tigers had made the GF.
Cant see us drafting a mid then a tall swingman with our first 2 picks
Shirley wed go for 2 mids
Ahh. Interesting ground the MSHOB ground with that tree down near the goals at one end. Trinity and Thomastown were the teams to beat in my first year in Melbourne. Promotion/relegation changed the teams every year. North Brunswick the best gang of organised thugs I ever played against…….anywhere. We had 3 blokes whacked behind play the first time I played against them. In Amateur footy!
CCJ problem is between the ears ,he's not committed enough and enjoys the off field time too much.
I have no problem with Dodson,as long as he's committed to hard work.
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Didnt Melbourne trade for pick 9 last month with the Bumbers?
So why would they trade it back?
Not happening
Edit Posh posted thats its probably a mixup of the logos
I’ve always like the idea of having a ruck on the rookie list and not giving away early picks , generally though you only have 1 pick in the top 20 so a good solid 5 year investment always seems a lot to pay for something that may end up not giving back anything .
Yep I’m the same as most in that generally best way to get a good ruck is to trade for a proven one , however we are in a unique situation this year and there is no rush or pressure on a young ruck to develop quickly, I also love the idea of Dodson playing/ training with the core bunch of mids he will grow with towards our next flag .
Bottom line for me is I rate Dobson as a potential 150 game Ruck , his ruck work continues to improve and he naturally stays in the game not like a lot of rucks that disappear once the Ruck contest has ended . Imho he’s at least the equal as a ruckman then any of the highly touted KPP are , hope we land him with one of our later picks , if we don’t we’ll find another good player
Ruckman are like rice with a good hot Indian dish , you don’t really want it but ya gotta have it
Yep I’m the same as most in that generally best way to get a good ruck is to trade for a proven one , however we are in a unique situation this year and there is no rush or pressure on a young ruck to develop quickly, I also love the idea of Dodson playing/ training with the core bunch of mids he will grow with towards our next flag .
Bottom line for me is I rate Dobson as a potential 150 game Ruck , his ruck work continues to improve and he naturally stays in the game not like a lot of rucks that disappear once the Ruck contest has ended . Imho he’s at least the equal as a ruckman then any of the highly touted KPP are , hope we land him with one of our later picks , if we don’t we’ll find another good player
Ruckman are like rice with a good hot Indian dish , you don’t really want it but ya gotta have it
That's fair. But don't really get this narrative from media and supporters of "richmond have plenty of picks, they can afford to take a risk on (insert any of Dodson, Hotton, Trainor etc).
No we cant.
We have the most holes in our team to fill by an absolutely mile. We are coming from a million miles back.
We need to make every pick count to get the volume of players into our side that can positively impact our performances.
This is a once in a generation opportunity. If we don't maximise it we'll be down for that generation.
It's why also against losing picks in this draft to trade up. Keep the volume and maximise the amount of cards in our hand.
I'd take Lindsay instead of Shanahan.
Lalor Lindsay Allan a good mix of mids, and we can get a good tall with our later picks
Don't these pricks read PRE !Geelong eyes move for South Australian ruck prospect Alex Dodson at national draft
Four years after trading up to draft best-and-fairest winner Max Holmes, Geelong is eyeing another big move with its eye on one of the most highly-rated athletes in the current draft pool.
Matt Turner and Dan Batten
Herald Sun
November 16, 2024
Geelong could try to move up the order to land the draft’s best ruck prospect, South Australian Alex Dodson.
The Cats are understood to be keen on the Sturt big man but their first pick is not until No. 45, well after he is expected to be chosen.
So Geelong, which holds all its 2025 selections, may attempt to package a future call to land the under-18 All-Australian next week.
Richmond has been widely tipped to swoop on Dodson as a potential ruck successor to Toby Nankervis.
The Tigers have a swag of picks (18, 20, 23, 24) at the end of the first and start of the second round where they may pounce, if they take them into the draft.
Indications suggest the Cats are also in the frame to add a ruckman given Rhys Stanley turns 34 next month, Toby Conway is promising but has battled foot stress fractures the past two seasons and Mitch Edwards is a project player set to enter his second campaign.
Geelong is believed to have looked closely at Dodson, 204cm GWS academy prospect Logan Smith and 199cm West Australian Kayle Gerreyn.
The Cats are interested in SA ruck prospect Alex Dodson.
Emerging big man Toby Conway has had injury issues.
Dodson, who stands 203cm, has been compared to two-time All-Australian Brodie Grundy because of his mobility and competitiveness.
Recruiters think the youngster has huge potential after sitting out from football last season to focus on basketball.
This year, he played hoops for Australia at under-18 level, only to turn down division one college scholarship offers and a development spot with Adelaide 36ers to pursue footy.
Dodson averaged 20.8 disposals, 24.9 hit-outs and 4.6 clearances from nine under-18 games for the Double Blues, as well as 17.3 disposals and 19.7 hit-outs for SA.
Dodson reaches highest to win a hitout during the Under-18 National Championships.
AFL talent ambassador Kevin Sheehan told this masthead it was difficult to know how early top ruckmen would be taken in drafts, but he felt Dodson was a first-round choice.
“Given basketball occupied him a fair bit, he’s got so much development still in him, yet he was still fantastic this year,” Sheehan said.
“He’s competitive, mobile, a great size and can win the ball.
“He just needs time to develop physically to compete against the bigger bodies.”
ALEX DODSON'S DRAFT DOSSIER PROFILE
A mobile big man with “sky high” potential, Dodson looks set to be the first ruckman picked in this year’s draft. A dual-sport athlete, he did not play football as a 17-year-old, instead focusing on his other sporting love of basketball. He won a gold medal playing basketball for Australia at the Albert Schweitzer Tournament in Germany earlier this year and missed South Australia’s first match of the AFL under-18 national championships to attend a national under-19 basketball program at the AIS in Canberra.
However, Dodson’s performances for his state in the last three games of the championships proved he is a player with a bright future ahead in the AFL. Likened to Western Bulldogs ruckman Tim English, Dodson is a good tap ruckman who then gets himself involved in the game post-hitout.
He is a nice mark overhead, has clean hands, is handy below his knees for a big man and can go forward and kick a goal. In one game for Sturt’s under-18s in late July, Dodson racked up 32 disposals (20 contested) along with 34 hitouts and 10 clearances. He has rejected multiple offers to play college basketball in the United States in favour of pursuing a football career.
SANFL U18s 125 ranking points, 20.8 disposals, 4 marks, 24.9 hitouts (7.4 to advantage), 4.6 clearances, 3 score involvements, 2.1 tackles, 0.1 goals (9 games)
2024 National Champs 114 ranking points, 17.3 disposals, 3 marks, 19.7 hitouts (6.7 to advantage), 3.7 clearances, 3 score involvements, 1.7 tackles, 0.3 goals (3 games)
If Geelong chose a ruckman next week, it would make it three in four national drafts.
The Cats selected Conway at pick 24 in 2021 and Edwards at No. 32 last November.
Geelong has taken a conservative approach with Conway, 21, because of his injury issues, which have restricted him to 23 games in all competitions in three seasons, including six at the top level.
He played five AFL matches this year.
Stanley featured in 14 games in 2024, including both of Geelong’s finals.
The Cats delisted category B rookie and ruckman Joe Furphy last month.
Every player is OUR'S !!
until we dont want them...
Hard to get A grade ruckmen these day's with 18 clubs and a 19th on it's way ,so l guess you can get away with b/c grade rucks because there are so many around .
Dodson looks quite good ,easily the best this year.
Agree but one way or another an Ashcroft bid anywhere, is going to be matched,
with an obvious impact on Marshall.
He is the best performed player and there could be no logical complaint if we bid at one and later bid on Sam Marshall.
What do u think of Marshall?
Yeah I get that and mostly agree but we don’t have a replacement for Nank and that is a key part of a midfield as well.
If he is good enough we should take him imo and to me it is a part of maximising our draft hand.
I’m not advocating the risk taking just utilising a wide hand. If we had 4 picks it would be picking the biggest needs, maybe 3 mids and a KPF, but we have 8 so we have the luxury of targeting multiple needs, including a ruck.
Just on the KPP I hope we take whichever kid with the intention of him being either a key forward or key back , someone who will be a lock for us going forward , I dont want us picking a particular player because “ he can pinch hit in the ruck “ or could possibly play back if he dosent make it forward , I’d like to see us take the kid we believe will simply turn into the best player of the lot because they will dominate their position.
We don’t need handy utility’s
We don’t need handy utility’s
I used to have hopeDon’t we have 3 more years of Delilah
He’ll come good soon and replace Nank
A Dodson won't play at top level for 4 years at least, if he makes it. I don't see the point at this stage, however I do get that we are in a unique position draft-wise. Many grand finals have been won with average ruckmen. I'd just look to trade a more mature ruckman down the track. In the meantime we just have to stick with the rucks we have. Get more time into Samson, after all we gave him an extended 3 years.
