2024 Draft Thread

[tigerdell]

I asked about him being a midfielder, definitely sees him playing majority of his career as a small forward , thigh did say he could see him starting out at half back which I thought was interesting ……. Mate your going to have to have a couple of cognacs after pick 9 to calm the nerves , I’m convinced Essendon are going to offer us something for pick 10 or 11

If Essendon offer a future first for 10 i'd say no.
Probably no to a f1 and f2.
What about both f1s they have?

 

[bengal tigers]

Do we even have an academy it has been a very barren hunting ground.

Yeah,but our best credentialed will have to wait till 2026,Tanner Armstrong ,,really good player,already playing main coates for Murray.
We could have also got Cody Walker in 2026,but he seems to have chose Carlton f/s.

 

[Tortured Tiger]

Do we even have an academy it has been a very barren hunting ground.

Tanner Armstrong looks like a real chance for 2026. All Australian at under 16 level and played some games for the Bushrangers this year and didn’t look overawed at all.

 

[Sintiger]

If Essendon offer a future first for 10 i'd say no.
Probably no to a f1 and f2.
What about both f1s they have?

I’d say yes to 2 F1s but I would be surprised if it happened

They could offer an F1 and their pick 28 but probably still a bit light on. I’d do that for pick 18

 

[Tortured Tiger]

If Essendon offer a future first for 10 i'd say no.
Probably no to a f1 and f2.
What about both f1s they have?

I wouldn’t consider any trade before Pick 18 unless it was way overs and included something this year as well as next.

 

[Redford]

Yeah my gut feel is it will be a Paddy McCartin scenario where he retires early. But we have no idea so I,m happy if the club makes the call. With 8 picks we can take more of a risk.
Though I'd be happier if another club picks him first!

I was going through some stuff last night. Rankings, permutations etc and I found myself asking would I draft Luke Trainor ?

The answer was no. But not because of the draft risk in taking him, and maybe blowing a pick or whatever, but rather for the human care factor.

I wouldn't want to be seen as a complicit part of a process that saw him go out there and play football and end up doing something to himself with big time life impacts. I wouldn't want to be part of something that could involve me having to go to Luke's parents and say "Look, Luke's had a head injury, we can see some damage, we're not sure what it means" etc.

If he wants to play, him and his specialists think he can play, fine. I get that. But I'm still avoiding him. Not because of club or drafting risk, but because of concern for Luke himself. Personally, I just don't wanna be part of the risk to his health. Potentially a serious, quality of life risk.

 

[bullus_hit]

Apologies if I’ve mentioned my story on here before re concussions, however as my great Tiger mates on here know I suffered multiple concussions when I was younger a few I have no memory of and only know of because dear old mum told me about when I started seeking treatment many years later due to the problems they were causing I.e depression, memory loss , bad grammar .
My point is I’ve lived it and understand the repercussions it can cause in day to day life , great example , I was walking my dogs a few weeks back and as I put my head down , one of the pooches turned around accidentally head butting me , instant stars , nearly K Oed , anyway basically spent the next 5 days with dizziness and feeling like I was going to spew . Common knowledge once you’ve had concussions it’s so easy to get one , I actually don’t like been tapped gently on the head .

Such a tough tough call for the recruiters and the families of these young men and women hoping to make a career out of playing AFL football .

My great mate @Tigers of Old once asked me would you have given it away if you knew what you were going to have to go through later in life , as I said geeez I don’t know , though the memories not great , what I do remember is best bloody times of my life playing footy with my mates and what being involved in a footy club is , in saying that not a chance in hell I’d let my son continue on if he had been knocked out and had side effects .

Again geez what a call for Trainor etc

I retired from football at age 20 due to my 5th concussion, it was during a game playing for MHSOB, it was my worst head knock and my front tooth smashed in the process. The hit so severe I woke up freaking out because I didn't know where I was and back in those days if you could walk, you went back out on the field. It was actually the dentist who encouraged me to see a doctor, he said I should have stopped after the fourth concussion but when you're young, you're fearless, if not slightly stupid. I loved playing football, I didn't even mind being hit because I naively thought it was just like a bruise and would disappear in time for the next game. Fast forward 30 years and I'm becoming forgetful, often can't remember names & dates, although it's difficult to know if that's a symptom of old age. I certainly don't regret retiring early, I'm also thankful my dentist took concussion seriously because had it not been for that intervention a potential 6th concussion could have had serious ramifications. There's more to life than kicking a Sherrin around a park, that goes for cricketers as well.

 

[caesar]

Yeah,but our best credentialed will have to wait till 2026,Tanner Armstrong ,,really good player,already playing main coates for Murray.
We could have also got Cody Walker in 2026,but he seems to have chose Carlton f/s.

The Cody Walker thing is what makes a joke of the academy system, he was always going to play football, grew up with football, his old man played football, he shouldn't be in our academy as simple as that, there are many other examples of this being the case.

 

[Tigatale]

Trainor's last concussion he reckons was totally over blown. He reckons he was fine straight afterward and was running around the next day no problems. No post event symptoms at all really. Did training etc during the week.

Coates league rules stopped him playing. Over blown his concussion issues. I’d give him a go with a late pick.

 

[caesar]

Yeah,but our best credentialed will have to wait till 2026,Tanner Armstrong ,,really good player,already playing main coates for Murray.
We could have also got Cody Walker in 2026,but he seems to have chose Carlton f/s.

I just looked up Tanner Armstrong, hopefully a couple of growing years in him, only 175cm at present, I hope he is more than a back pocket plumber.


Vic Country | 175cm | 27/02/2008

A tough and versatile talent, Armstrong adapted to roles on all three lines throughout the championships. He shone during the Queensland leg of the carnival with an attacking role out of defence, while also proving capable of shutting down opposition smalls. Armstrong averaged 21.3 disposals and 10 contested possessions per game, balancing his work beautifully and working hard for the team in whatever role was asked of him.


**Updated : On further searching it looks like he can play forward as well:

Bushies have also berthed Under 16 talent Tanner Armstrong, who hardly looked out of place up forward and can play on each line.

 

[Tigatale]

I retired from football at age 20 due to my 5th concussion, it was during a game playing for MHSOB, it was my worst head knock and my front tooth smashed in the process. The hit so severe I woke up freaking out because I didn't know where I was and back in those days if you could walk, you went back out on the field. It was actually the dentist who encouraged me to see a doctor, he said I should have stopped after the fourth concussion but when you're young, you're fearless, if not slightly stupid. I loved playing football, I didn't even mind being hit because I naively thought it was just like a bruise and would disappear in time for the next game. Fact forward 30 years and I'm becoming forgetful, often can't remember names & dates, although it's difficult to know if that's a symptom of old age. I certainly don't regret retiring early, I'm also thankful my dentist took concussion seriously because had it not been for that intervention a potential 6th concussion could have had serious ramifications. There's more to life than kicking a Sherrin around a park, that goes for cricketers as well.

You don’t have to be concussed for that. I’m like that and haven’t been concussed before. It is a symptom of getting older.

 

[jimbob]

I retired from football at age 20 due to my 5th concussion, it was during a game playing for MHSOB, it was my worst head knock and my front tooth smashed in the process. The hit so severe I woke up freaking out because I didn't know where I was and back in those days if you could walk, you went back out on the field. It was actually the dentist who encouraged me to see a doctor, he said I should have stopped after the fourth concussion but when you're young, you're fearless, if not slightly stupid. I loved playing football, I didn't even mind being hit because I naively thought it was just like a bruise and would disappear in time for the next game. Fact forward 30 years and I'm becoming forgetful, often can't remember names & dates, although it's difficult to know if that's a symptom of old age. I certainly don't regret retiring early, I'm also thankful my dentist took concussion seriously because had it not been for that intervention a potential 6th concussion could have had serious ramifications. There's more to life than kicking a Sherrin around a park, that goes for cricketers as well.

What era Bullas you at MHSOB? I played against them back in 84-85.

 

[Tigatale]

Maybe. That article where he reckoned he was fine, he claimed he was running the next day, or maybe it was the day after. So he was obviously somewhat confused about it.

Sure he has had scans etc and if medically passed, then he should be well considered in the late first round.

 

[Tigatale]

Rather the Dees f1 than the Bombers.

Not me. Bombers list is trash. Melbourne with Petracca back will end higher. Essendon will end bottom 4.

 

[bullus_hit]

What era Bullas you at MHSOB? I played against them back in 84-85.

Early 90s, I think it was the 1992 season, cannot remember the team or the ground although it was definitely an away game. The player who struck me had no intention of punching the ball either, this was before camera phones so sniping was par for the course at amateur level. The team I feared most was Assumption College, they were the team to beat back in those days.

 

[bengal tigers]

The Cody Walker thing is what makes a joke of the academy system, he was always going to play football, grew up with football, his old man played football, he shouldn't be in our academy as simple as that, there are many other examples of this being the case.

I guess though,he has the option to change his mind ,2026 is still quite a while off yet.
Same as Ashcroft this year,he could of had the option to be a Tiger instead of a Lion.

I just looked up Tanner Armstrong, hopefully a couple of growing years in him, only 175cm at present, I hope he is more than a back pocket plumber.


Vic Country | 175cm | 27/02/2008

A tough and versatile talent, Armstrong adapted to roles on all three lines throughout the championships. He shone during the Queensland leg of the carnival with an attacking role out of defence, while also proving capable of shutting down opposition smalls. Armstrong averaged 21.3 disposals and 10 contested possessions per game, balancing his work beautifully and working hard for the team in whatever role was asked of him.


**Updated : On further searching it looks like he can play forward as well:

Bushies have also berthed Under 16 talent Tanner Armstrong, who hardly looked out of place up forward and can play on each line.

He is a good player,looks first round ,,,looks a quality year 2026 a few of all types.

 

[Tigatale]

I was going through some stuff last night. Rankings, permutations etc and I found myself asking would I draft Luke Trainor ?

The answer was no. But not because of the draft risk in taking him, and maybe blowing a pick or whatever, but rather for the human care factor.

I wouldn't want to be seen as a complicit part of a process that saw him go out there and play football and end up doing something to himself with big time life impacts. I wouldn't want to be part of something could involve me going to Luke's parents and having to say "Look, Luke's had a head injury, we can see some damage, we're not sure what it means" etc.

If he wants to play, him and his specialists think he can play, fine. I get that. But I'm still avoiding him. Not because of club or drafting risk, but because of concern for Luke himself. Personally, I just don't wanna be part of the risk to his health. Potentially a serious, quality of life risk.

I see your point, however, imagine if every club took that attitude and he was not drafted. His mental health would suffer greatly. It’s a dilemma and one I’m sure all club recruitment teams and medical staff have discussed. If current medical opinion is he is fit to play, then yes I’d give a late pick for him. We play Prestia and he was knocked senseless. Maybe clubs need to ensure all contracts have a clause where the player acknowledges/accepts the risk involved and the cost of any future litigation falls to the AFL and it’s insurers.

 

[DuD_Delist]

Not me. Bombers list is trash. Melbourne with Petracca back will end higher. Essendon will end bottom 4.

Nah.Dees are cooked.
Trac doesn't want to be there
Oliver is still searching for that Jackpot.
Infighting

 

[eZyT]

…. Mate your going to have to have a couple of cognacs after pick 9 to calm the nerves , I’m convinced Essendon are going to offer us something for pick 10 or 11

I think, given the limited time window between celebrating Jagga at 1, FOS at 6, then JoeBerry at 10,

ill just make a jug of frozen psychedelic heroine champagne margarita with 5 straws

 

[tigerlove]

Maybe clubs need to ensure all contracts have a clause where the player acknowledges/accepts the risk involved and the cost of any future litigation falls to the AFL and it’s insurers.

You know the AFL has to approve all contracts? They're not going to allow clubs to divert responsibility to themselves in this manner. In the end both AFL and clubs are responsible for a player's well-being. They're being tested with lawsuits. That's why the AFL has cracked down on anything concussion related and introduced mandatory breaks for concussed players. Have you not been privy to all the rule changes of late?