Who was that?I think the only decent ones went before the year it started
We did get Eggs.
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2024 Draft Thread
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We did get Eggs.
What a draft thread it’s been. I’m not a junior watcher but feel very informed - appreciate all the opinions, intel and speculation. Very excited for Wednesday night and will try not to be too disappointed if we don’t land all of Lalor, Jagga, Langford, FoS, Smillie, Tauru and Lindsay!! Not sure who the poster was but someone very wise commented on how the focus this year seems to be on players’ flaws not their strengths in an effort to separate them. Whoever we get, I’m very pumped because they’ll have a lot to offer. I’m also very excited to see Banks, Gibcus Smith and Brown settle further into the first 22. Barring career ending injuries, I believe they’ll make it, along with Macauliffe, Fawcett and Bauer. Things are never as bad or as good as they seem. Go tigers!
No, even the experts wouldn't be sure, only time will tell, but clearly he's a bigger risk as far as clubs are concerned. Obviously as a top player someone will take that risk at some point. What is known from research is that the brain keeps maturing until mid-20s and those with multiple concussions can disrupt brain connectivity, creating longer-term issues not evident now and increases the risk of depression. It's a potentially serious issue. My main point was that the boy is under-estimating the risk by saying the reaction to his latest concussion was overblown, far from it.
There is so much scuttlebutt and rumour. A day or so ago the crows were hot on Jagga. Which may be true but the reason their interest peaked may also be because they need a back up if Carlton picks Draper.
Who knows?
Its about maximising what they have.
This is where its relevant.
North have spoken about trading 2. They want to trade 2. They know other clubs rate Tauru lower than 2 so can trade down.
Blair did it last year to trade back and still get an equivalent value player in McAuliffe.
Thats the move.
Fixate on Tauru means they're limiting themselves.
A combo of Armstrong and Trainor beats one Tauru.
If they dont trade they can get Tauru. Or maybe choose a mid. But they dont maximise.
Every club get draft picks. The trading objective is to maximise.
We'll find out next week what they do.
When would you pick him Tlove?
Would you take him with one of our late picks?
Personally think it's just too risky. With the AFL crackdown on concussions and the increased awareness and more conservative approaches, we are seeing more players retiring. I know that many specialists would be happier to see players prone to concussion not play footy.
SoJ's Draftmas Wishlist!
That we hold our picks rather than trade up or out other than for a Godfather offer.
That Tauru is taken top 5 and Armstrong top 10 - but not by us. North taking Tauru top 5 will be hugely beneficial to us.
That we take pure and hybrid mids for our first 4 and possibly 5 selections.
I'd love any 2 of Lalor, FOS, Draper, Jagga or Langford with our first two picks. (Picks 1,6). Smillie or Tauru the consolation prizes.
I'd like any 2 of Smillie, Allan, Travaglia, Lindsay and with our second two picks. (Picks 10,11)
I'd like any 4 of Hynes, Datoli, Faull, Shanahan and J. Whitlock with our last four picks (18,20,23,24)
That we don't take Trainer or Dodson.
That we hold our picks rather than trade up or out other than for a Godfather offer.
That Tauru is taken top 5 and Armstrong top 10 - but not by us. North taking Tauru top 5 will be hugely beneficial to us.
That we take pure and hybrid mids for our first 4 and possibly 5 selections.
I'd love any 2 of Lalor, FOS, Draper, Jagga or Langford with our first two picks. (Picks 1,6). Smillie or Tauru the consolation prizes.
I'd like any 2 of Smillie, Allan, Travaglia, Lindsay and with our second two picks. (Picks 10,11)
I'd like any 4 of Hynes, Datoli, Faull, Shanahan and J. Whitlock with our last four picks (18,20,23,24)
That we don't take Trainer or Dodson.
Apologies if I’ve mentioned my story on here before re concussions, however as my great Tiger mates on here know I suffered multiple concussions when I was younger a few I have no memory of and only know of because dear old mum told me about when I started seeking treatment many years later due to the problems they were causing I.e depression, memory loss , bad grammar 
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My point is I’ve lived it and understand the repercussions it can cause in day to day life , great example , I was walking my dogs a few weeks back and as I put my head down , one of the pooches turned around accidentally head butting me , instant stars , nearly K Oed , anyway basically spent the next 5 days with dizziness and feeling like I was going to spew . Common knowledge once you’ve had concussions it’s so easy to get one , I actually don’t like been tapped gently on the head .
Such a tough tough call for the recruiters and the families of these young men and women hoping to make a career out of playing AFL football .
My great mate @Tigers of Old once asked me would you have given it away if you knew what you were going to have to go through later in life , as I said geeez I don’t know , though the memories not great , what I do remember is best bloody times of my life playing footy with my mates and what being involved in a footy club is , in saying that not a chance in hell I’d let my son continue on if he had been knocked out and had side effects .
Again geez what a call for Trainor etc
. My point is I’ve lived it and understand the repercussions it can cause in day to day life , great example , I was walking my dogs a few weeks back and as I put my head down , one of the pooches turned around accidentally head butting me , instant stars , nearly K Oed , anyway basically spent the next 5 days with dizziness and feeling like I was going to spew . Common knowledge once you’ve had concussions it’s so easy to get one , I actually don’t like been tapped gently on the head .
Such a tough tough call for the recruiters and the families of these young men and women hoping to make a career out of playing AFL football .
My great mate @Tigers of Old once asked me would you have given it away if you knew what you were going to have to go through later in life , as I said geeez I don’t know , though the memories not great , what I do remember is best bloody times of my life playing footy with my mates and what being involved in a footy club is , in saying that not a chance in hell I’d let my son continue on if he had been knocked out and had side effects .
Again geez what a call for Trainor etc
If we pick Lalor at 1 and let’s say Smillie at 6. Have we even addressed the issue with our midfield?
Yeah, whilst from afar it appears an issue no doubt, I'll leave the actual assessment as to whether he's under estimating his own risk to both himself, and his doctors and specialists. Everybody is different and we have no medical insight into his personal situation.
You and I can't make those sorts of calls on his behalf.
Clubs will do the due diligence.
Yep, he was touted as a top 5 pick originally as the best tall in the draft and definitely won't be going in that range. May end up a bargain.
Yep. You're right, it's an issue. But how much, who would know. The whole area is such a new frontier. Everyone's different. Different factors etc. And you have big time lags as well before you know the true outcomes.
A very difficult thing to assess.
He's very very talented so yeah, if things work out on the health front, he'll totally be a bargain.
But who knows.
Some people are clearly more susceptible to concussions than others & the likelihood of repeat concussions happens with each collision.
The knocks don't have to be considerable either as Mr B pointed out.
Remember when Paddy McCartin knocked himself out on the boundary line? Ben Griffens did too taking a high mark.
Lots of players having careers ended in recent times.
What's worse a high hamstring or a series of concussions?
Trainor is a risk to some degree for sure.
I asked about him being a midfielder, definitely sees him playing majority of his career as a small forward , thigh did say he could see him starting out at half back which I thought was interesting ……. Mate your going to have to have a couple of cognacs after pick 9 to calm the nerves , I’m convinced Essendon are going to offer us something for pick 10 or 11
Yeah my gut feel is it will be a Paddy McCartin scenario where he retires early. But we have no idea so I,m happy if the club makes the call. With 8 picks we can take more of a risk.
Though I'd be happier if another club picks him first!
